This isnt possible....Like currently RoFL leads e3 bt are they RED BOOSTERS????
Nd i don't think the same allaince can be first wid red boosting if they don't have skill..activity..coordination etc...

No time to actually reply to every little thing on this thread, but I'll chip in quickly.

I have been a big supporter of this idea for a long time because I really believe battlehugs is killing Battledawn. Everyone should be going for first and I believe this is a good way to encourage it. As I have only about 5 minutes I'm keeping it short for once, anything that discourages battlehugs/subs is good to me.

Then the other big argument on this thread seems to be that non boosters can't do well (anymore). I played a few eras seriously here on .com and I can tell you you do not need to boost to win. The power record still belongs to me, and during that era I even still had the advertisements as I hadn't bought a single red token. No red booster so far has been able to take down that record. I know that Korupt and me can take on any player on this game, and both of us are non boosters.

So please, to all the boosting arguments.. Yes, it is hard to play this game without reds. Is it impossible? No. I believe playing without reds actually makes you a better player as you have to rely on resources you gain yourself.

This post x 2 ^
I became a good player when I stopped relying on tokens either red or blue so why don't you players at least try once to do so.
I think the developers came with this idea in order that knowledge and skill are transmitted again through the game again in that way BattleHugs will be terminated.

i see you guys really don't read the post or the essence of those
first of telling me about aanc and things like that dont impress me - i should sugest i am an old player - for the one who tryed to teach me about g4 and plo he should see that i know better about that then him since my ign in game is 3z
also he and the others should know that beeing one of the leaders of a so called monster "TK family" i don't talk in my position but i am trying to stand up for the little guys
i played era's with no tokens at all and i have left my leading alliance more time then you power greedy for tokens noobs can even imagine
i did get new people who never before experienced the batlle for the first place also involved in those fights
i make it my self duty to bring new players in a spot when they can see how this game is really played and not with just statements that "yeah we can teach you a lot" but really put them to work
my only era as a noob in this game was my first and that is so long a go that even i can't remember it anymore so stop trying to teach me how it means to train noobs or handle them since i can say truly i am more close to them every day then you guys
also if everyone should read this is was suposed to be a debate - i wrote some ideas ... i might be inclined to say that i am the only one since you guys just fight to prove your point and impose it - like a debate should be a dialog to try and figure out a way that benefits the game not to be test labs mouse and ruin things by imposing your will by saying an excuse like"you had your shots to be convincing and weren't"
also give us some real stats that are supporting your real claims - or try and see what the stats real say and think about the things i mentioned also - puting prizes for battles will increase the action and drop the battlehug more then cuting off any income like that
get less tokens for winning teams ranks 1-3 and put some tokens for the real warriors and then stop yelling we are doing something for the game and the comunity

tnx and i do know that i may look like an agitator but i do it because all invoke reasons for the new kids and say they know bestso please stop playing this games for just yourself or a small group and think of measures for all of us - battlehugs wont be gone like that - make 5 teams and make them all active and helping each other in worlds and you stil have the same team wining this game but reduce the number of players involved since noone will dare to promote someone new with no experience

See here u prove the point that ur Excellenty Good without using tokens.....So why r u fighting For No TOkens for Second nd Third allaince?

Well here u see u Said that u know Noobs better nd can teach them..So ur doing a fine job...Good that Noobs can learn how to play good nowadays.

Well first of all a DEBATE meansA Formal Discussion in which Opposing Arguements are presented
Bro..give us a specific point which can affect BD when this suggestion is implemented nd we will GLADLY Resign....nd accpet that WE LOSE.

Secondly

Well if ur an Old player i respect u...nd then u say by Saying I AM A OLD PLAYER
This literally means u can easily get rank 1....
Nd by this suggestion BD is increasing the amount of tokens that Rank 1 allaince gets by cutting short the Second nd Third place finishes...SO why are u so worried????

ok really reading doesnt mean you need to interpret things puting quotes as you see them fit
read everything and you allready know your answer
but in case you stil can't read all i will be more then happy to repeat or if you need next time i just requote myself until you read right

the rank 1 gets all rule is implemented to increase combat and to make the game atractive - marketing
if a game is to easy all say it becomes boring... so i can understand the desire to make it more challenging
that is why i wrote buttlehugs will exist even from this point
also boosters will win more then you guys think couse once you take the tokens from the noobs they wont climb up in ranks and they wont get experience from others ( and experience isn't learned by aanc but by taking place in big fights )
so encourage the fights for bigger rewards better then striping the prizes and put like an auction for rank 1 ( more reds better chances )
if you work for a company and you wanna know where you are doing wrong you dont wake up one morning and say let's fire all to save more monney - i think you should first analyze where the most losses are or what can you do to increase productivity
you guys are just using the first notion - want more fun then lets cut the little guy's
i for one won't be able to promote new commers even tho they will be active couse when the fighting comes i can't school someone and say - it is good for the enemy to get more blues together with those reds and we will have more chances
wanna do something i repeat and maybe this time i should put it in bold so you can read my sugestion:
rank 1 - blues 750 - 500 for relics
rank 2 - blues 500
rank 3 - blues 250
players with over 20 k kills get like 500 tokens
players with kills between 15 k and 20 k get 250 tokens
players with kills between 10 k and 15 k kills get 100 tokens
players with over 100 op's captured get 200 tokens
players with over 50 colony's captured get 100 tokens
players with over 20 wrekages captured get 50 tokens
and so on
is that hard to think to encourage people to be active and play ?!
i wonder ... it would be more easy for someone to not give a damn and just wake up and say having less people means more fun ?!
i hope atleast now someone really reads and understands - i repeat ... this isn't for me but for all the people who give a damn about this game and the people who trust this comunity

tnx - 3z

No I've personally had a hard time understanding you D:




Okay I have a one or two issues with this. Personally I disagree with offering blue tokens out for holding a relic thats just a strange thought and I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll.

Also blues for personal rank and for wreckage's? Another thing that I can disagree with, even if it is a really low amount, you'll have players fighting over Hawaii just to collect wreckage's the entire era.

Kills and outposts, yes that could be more of an incentive but that could also mean players could try and farm this system, no matter the amount of kills needed. Same goes along the lines for OP's.

Okay not everyone has time to sit down and play seriously on a 3 ticker, heck, I have friends, friends that played 6 tickers hardcore on Kong back to back every era. And well not everyone has time to do things like that, so yeah a lot of people only have time to sit on a 1 ticker and play, I've found that out the hard way.

Community... were a community split. Largely on this fact. And while many have long standing issues with each other, others don't. Were all apart of this, and this change has been made. There is nothing that's going to stop it. No matter how hard anyone tries. Unless things get really bad. All we can do is play the game and see how it is.

Here u said for urself...see it goes like this..now as the other allainces don't get any tokens then..they will try to push hard for first..maybe they will form a grp of 3-4 allainces nd take down the first...nd the first will have to take great loses..defend everything nd ALONE....

Secondly here u described ur first point bt think it in A different way...The people who say are killed by the first place alalince will now realize their mistake..nd then when they battle it out second time they will improve them...nd then wid each mistake improving they will be great players at Battledawn.......So I see there is a positive aspect in this...

This thing i go agnst of this bt i have a better option..Bring back the Achieves that were probably(i heard were there in OC) in OC like killing units etc..I have only heard abt this..so if what i hear is true u should bring those achieves Like having 50 tokens for 5k kills nd 100 tokens for 10k kills..50 tokens for 200 conquers bt 100 tokens for 300+ conquers nd 100 Tokens for reaching powerlevel 500..

I hope i have cleared ur doubt....
EDIT_ _ _That achieves i added some of my own....

i see you are like a god here and a programer that you keep answering like you do know what the problem really is and you have all the data to improve so why did the admins even make the board disscusion ?
since you are mister know it all with enough experience then great - what else there is to do
but unless you can just write the same thing with quotes then please let the posts like i mentioned so that the admin's can see the situation at hand
we have a saying if one person tells you that you are dumb then he might be mistaking but if 2 say the same thing then you there must be a truth to all of this
so if more then 2 people ( and yeah at this time i am tired to count since this board is a waste of time since someone like you just writes and the ones who taken the decision don't write at all ) say the red boosters will get an unfair advantage, more then they allready have now, and will lead to people leaving why can't we find a solution with all
10 minds think better then 1 but i guess that 1k minds can think a lot more better then 10
so now you can stop with the quotes that just pick up space and dont let the ones involved to even read

edit - PS i forgot mister know it all - "you want to perform better then that" ?
then do come to the game more often then the forum and see all the game comunity rather then taking decisions in our place - and yeah i can outperform you even when i sleep

edit 2 - sorry i had to reedit since i heared you were playing g3 ... sorry if you got turned down there but we do take noobs also but noobs who are willing to learn and be active and not ones who just read the forums and get no experience ... tnx