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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:39 pm 
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Silentden007 wrote:
Great update! No really, AWESOME! Totally NOT increasing the gap between boosters and nonboosters!

Let's say I have 5k blues. I play competitively, try and win. I get edged out by a red boosting alliance and dont get #1. It was extremely close, and we ended up #2. BUT, I used up all my blues now. The redboosters get ALL the blue tokens this era. Meaningless to them because they propably boost a very large amount of reds, but it means the end of competitive play most likely for the nonboosters. Sure, a select few could still end up winning the era even with nonboosting, but lets look at the MAJORITY of our small community.

How many do you think will stick around after losing all their blues? You are trying to incite competition. Might work for the first 2-3 eras where people still have their tokens. But what happens when those tokens dry up? Gone will be the newer players, gone will be a majority of the nonboosters. Another brilliantly thought out update!

Historically, monopolising something has always ended competition. Its basic capitalism. So let's give the people who propably do not need blues, monopoly over blues. The ones who win, will propably keep winning now. Era's will be more "predetermined" than ever

Yes, my point has propably been brought up before in this thread, I've read through quite a few posts. But I simply want to repeat all of that to make it OBVIOUS how bad of a update this truly is. By the time the admins realize that as well, it might actually be too late. Old time nonboosters might quit, newer players might quit (let's say i join BD today. As if im ever gonna instantly win a era. Why stick around when there is no chance of you winning any time soon, and not even a reward for your efforts?)

I've seen Korupt's arguments, and basically, not everybody is as pro as you are at this game. Your reasoning might work for players like you, but players like you are 1 in a million. Good luck playing a MMO with only a handfull of players. Only the "hardcore" players will actually benefit from this update. And this is the minority of all BD players.

You are trying to stop battlehugs, all you are doing is stopping battledawn.com, turning it into Kong.
People who will help will help regardless. Especially the top alliances, since they are close enough friends. For example, let me win this era, you get next era. Your update is now made pointless (except for the negative effects)

I agree with this in a way... I do see where the admins are coming through i have seen DEAD eras with bout 7-10 subs and only one dominant alliance which is needs to go away. I also do oppose this new rule though. It's not much i hate i can't go for 2nd or 3rd,it's now if i don't get 1st by some situation where i and my alliance are still alive we get nothin...(i also don't think most 2nd place alliances,unless a sub, are shooting for 2nd but they must take it) I think if we lower 2nd and 3rd place rewards and increase the 1st place reward a little more it will decrease "Battlehugs"
But u admins know what's best for BD I trust whatever you decide to do will help

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Voted tweak.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:07 pm 
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In theory it should work. Too many tokens though, make it 2000, you tend to have the same players win era after era. They bank too many tokens and get unfair advantage over others. Top alliances keep the same players for the next era. New players, or other experienced players have no incentive to keep playing, while top players will stay. When any 1-3 alliances win era after era, you may lose experienced players who see no hope of ever being in a top alliance.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:08 pm 
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I totally disagree

every 'legend' was once a newb and a member of rank 2 or rank 3 alliance and got tokens for it if he wudnt have gotten any tokens he wud have been forced either to buy reds or make a new account everytime he played

roggg the leader of ROFL started by leading my bro alliance going for rank 2 and getting a good grip of the game hypothetically if he wudnt have gotten any tokens for it he wud either have made a new account and collected tokens but the reward of 1500 tokens was quite helpful

battlehugs are a part of the game as well as the soul of diplomacy in which small non boosting or blue boosting alliances team up against a more powerful an common enemy ( big red boosters who can spend 25k reds for an era) and the tokens for rank 2 and 3 are a way of sharing the win with those guyz who have fought by the side of the rank 1 alliance against any threat ...

@ those who don't agree U MAD BRO :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:15 pm 
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kdog921 wrote:
You tend to have the same players win era after era. They bank too many tokens and get unfair advantage over others. Top alliances keep the same players for the next era. New players, or other experienced players have no incentive to keep playing, while top players will stay. When any 1-3 alliances win era after era, you may lose experienced players who see no hope of ever being in a top alliance.


This is my problem with this entire update. And that it won't stop subs.

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:24 pm 
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totaly disagree

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:27 pm 
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Lol..maybe I am mistaken, but I see at least two people here using more than one account to post. Naughty naughty :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:31 pm 
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i disagree...

this will make the red boosters win and blue boosters will die of havoc..


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:50 pm 
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Ilona wrote:
This is only the discussion thread. Main thread can be found here

Please state your opinions!

Too bad. :evil: Without using reds you can not get blue


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