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simmen · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:32 am **Posts:** 15978

i would gues it didn't, we just had some fun with the numbers to see if there were any possibilety it weren't a bug.
but even DoD say it's bugged =P

chad_j93 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:14 pm

what i think happened, FATE launched a nuke at lordfec's colony , this is where they had 450 odd squads after our first attack which we turned

im pretty sure squib moved his squads when nuke was eta 1 , meaning he didnt loose units only all his hp

he moved to renegades colony ( i think ) and from there launched right at garry's relic

meaning his units didnt rest or rested only 1 tick meaning 1-2 hp only when he hit

basicly making for a slogging match between garry's 1 hp units and squibs

anyway this is just from my eyes might have still been a little wrong things in there but i dno

i have been taking a few pics and ill have some things posted up soon

simmen · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:32 am **Posts:** 15978

we are currently trying to confirm by the other gu if he got hit by a nuke

chad_j93 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:13 pm

here come some pics

the initial flight in !

that one is of peaches army , had it not been for systems half army there while he was sleeping we would not have killed her units , but faced with loosing our guys army we couldnt sit and do nothing

600 squads launched at peaches

the vaca begins

trevor1601 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:45 pm **Posts:** 939

being a donator. and all the praise that the staff gives supportors i think that there should be sometihng more than just a admin doing what he thinks is best at the time. if someone supports they should be asked what is going on and given a chance to explain, before being banned. the staff here cant really expect this game to keep bringing in money after a few more months years of unjustified bans. the supporters will leave like me after my rounds end. saying that supporters dont get special treatment is a lie i believe. and there should be some kind of place where we can give complaints against staff admins etc etc. because i have seen a lot of wierd and obviously looking things like an alliance getting 3 of the last 5 relics placed on a server and the 3 of last relics were placed right next to this alliance. fair? balanced? i think not. so for the future of this game i say create something better than the ban / appeals posts. does every person that gets banned post on the forums or even know about the forums or about this ban / appeals topic? i dont think so. there should be something in game that allows for compliants and ban appeals.

just my opinion as a person who likes this game after playing for almost 3 years. personally never been banned but think there can be a lot of problems with having a person getting banned and not deserving it.
and people that spend loads of money on should absolutely have more rights than a non-supporter. it seems like ever since the OC the people that dont support get way too much and the new donating systyem seems like i get a lot less than when i could spend 19$ and get 20k metal and oil in one lump sum. now we have to spend money and the max we can get is around 9-16k .

sorry for writing so much but i miss the OC

chad_j93 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:52 am

jakesaysffs · **Posted:** Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:47 pm

Yes me and kellar entered vac
The game takes half an hour just to loads on the battledawn servers when peaches got banned i just gave up with even logging it so me and doc agreeded just to go into vac. :S
oh ye im rank 1 on a 6tick/hr so that takes up like 90% of BD time and it doesnt take forever to load:S
No one bans peaches or il slap em:£ yes u andrew just when u least expect it :evil:

DocRock · **Posted:** Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:44 pm

Well, I have so many things I could and would like to say...but most all of them would surely get me banned. So i will simply say I am totally and utterly disgusted with ANdrew and the Battledawn system nowadays. I have totally lost all respect for Andrew over the last 1500 ticks on multiple servers, not just M2.

As players, we all know sometimes real life can cause inactive periods, but isn't this ur job Andrew? Hmm. I wonder what would happen if I just decided to go inactive at my job...not to mention the numerous oddities that have been occurring around his servers lately. Unexplained phenomenon. Must be bugs....or aliens? Oh no!!! There's martians on Mars!!! Wtf? Not even with a nuke hitting those squads, would that BR come up with any results close to what were shown.

***(See the post about the BD Testers' experiment above for confirmation.)

This was not the only way in which Andrew interfered with the shaping of M2. And Peaches is not the first player that Andrew took out of the equation. We looked stronger on paper than we actually were at the time Gods moved in. Only because we continued to have faith in the system and refused to betray and kick/conquer our friends and teammates like many of the other alliances do (not Gods - which I respect). Players unable to log into their accounts for over a month...no response from Andrew or workarounds....no effort made to help them resolve the issue. And so on...

Perhaps the best display of how corrupt Admin Andrew has become is simply to look at his timing during a lot of his gavel swinging, etc. He has to have the best timing in the world time and again when these oddities occur. And when they later "make things right" its much too late...the damage has long been done and the resolution doesn't even come close to truly making things right. Admin has way too much power on the servers and how the rounds unfold. I've said this all along.

The forum ban appeal process is slow and flawed as well. I agree numerous players don't even visit the forums at all. And Battledawn is losing and will continue to lose players and supporters until the system is improved. Its amazing how many players don't even know some of the basic rules...not to mention the numerous others that have been added/changed. And even as an experienced player I find that sometimes I have trouble finding the exact page, rule, or topic link to give to a newb when they ask me for help.

Should supporters get "special treatment?" Seems this has been discussed countless times. Not really a right or wrong thing. Both sides can make a good argument. I will agree that supporters should not get "in-game" advantages that tilt the scales of balance fairness while playing a round. But let's remember, supporters are the ones keeping this game free for everybody else to enjoy. Yet they are often shunned for being a supporter. Its funny really. (yes I support). Should they get a chance to explain something to admin before being banned? Most definitely. In fact, everyone should.

Not that hard really guys. Why can't they add a special "admin channel to chat." A private chat where Admin can pull a player in and discuss something openly and immediately. Before the hammer of justice comes crashing down hard. Admin is already online at the time...And if a player is not online at the moment..then add some extra coding that automatically directs a player to the admin channel the moment they log in...before gameplay can resume. Sounds time consuming for admin though. So let's even take it further and establish exact time frames for Admins to be in these private sessions and for punishments to be handed out. We all work scheduled shifts in real life. Hours of operation, so to speak. So why not establish the same for Admin's work. Not that they should be restricted to only performing other Admin duties during this time. But hey, this is just an idea I came up with off the top of my head.

Sorry to hurt ur feelings Andrew, but I do hope u read this and I am certain u will undoubtedly hhear about it anyways. But as I said at the beginning of this post, I have truly lost all respect for you mate. This is the latest incident that has led me to this point. I admit that ur job can be tedious. A headache. Maybe even overwhelming at times. And I am certain u get 1000's of messages u have to sort through. Sucks I'd guess. But, you chose to do the job mate. Do it with consideration for others. Admin shouldn't simply carry on like judge, jury, and executioner without being held accountable. Only God has that right. (apologies to non-believers)

DocRock · **Posted:** Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:03 pm

As for myself and the other NTA members going into vacation mode...

Yes Chad. We discussed it. I chose to go into vacation mode as an act of disgust and to show others how strongly we feel about it. We had numerous players and alliances messaging us offering peaceful and safe relocation...support, and feelings of regret at how unfairly the tide was shifted in the round.

But I chose vacation mode. I knew ur armies were there. I knew i'd get raped and owned by doing so. But After all that had taken place, I had no desire to even fumble my way through the remainder of the round after such dramatic influence had sealed the round's fate.

By going into vacation mode, u lost nothing. I still lost everything. But the rest of the M2 players see how we refuse to take part in a shadowed round.
I am not a quitter by nature. All who know me, know this. And I am known for being a fighter on BD..I have little respect for farming players. And as I have said to both my teammates and thse we battled against this round, including you...its a game of war. Win or lose, we will fight though. And even being short 4 members we were all ready and willing to put up a good fight with u guys. U assembled a great team. Many of us had a lot of respect for the GODS ensemble. And we were all aware that even as allies, the round could not end until we went to war and settled it.

We didn't view ur attack on us as a backstab or betrayal. We knew it was inevitable. And I have no doubt I would have done the same in ur shoes...move in while the other team is still vulnerable. But it would have been a close battle. Truly epic. Given the number of units between our two teams. Assuming of course, u left a few members back home for hive defense...and seeing that we were down 3 members as well, but with homefield advantage it was fairly even. It should have been a chess match for sure. Definitely not the cakewalk it was after Peaches was unjustly banned.

Sad really, because our team was looking forward to having fun in the battle..win or lose. We were robbed of it. Hats off to you guys for a great round. But indeed, due to such travesties as what has taken place lately...it will long be remembered as a "tainted victory" now...not truly fair to u guys either. But players never forget.

simmen · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:32 am **Posts:** 15978

hi i must say that i agree to some of your points, like it taking to long with bann appeals, we are working on that now.

but as to andrew. he have some personal problems now, i will not say them here, he can post them if he feel like it. but the reasons would be enough for you not to go to your job i'm sure.

andrew is also the admin with the least complaints so it's weird how everyone turn on him now, but anyway.

this topic is for the war, if you (or anyone else) got things you would like to say about this case please pm me instead and i will get it over to the person running to case to check up on andrew.

thank you very much

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