let me explain to you what a sub is, at first, people build it as a "waiting list" to get into the alliance, you get people to jon your main alliance orders, and the main alliance will keep you under their wing, then after you get the good payers from the waiting list (sub) you leave the reast to grow into a strong alliance, and that way instead of having oh... say 5000 units with just 12-14 members, you could have 10000 units, because the sub is par tof your alliance (they serve under you) thats what a sub is, an alliance extension, i also start my subs up to teach newbs how to play sometimes

Noted but just be aware it puts a big target on your back.. by this im not saying we see you as enemy but just making a point about what subs do to an allience..

the admins made the allinace member limit 12 -14 for a reason

battledawn is played with a 12 team allinace on mars . any extension or w/e u want to call it is abusing the system and not how the admins had intended the game to be played

also a good team doesnt need to swap and change members all round to be high ranked

i start with my 11 others and we stay as 1 the entire round . i do not see a need to swap or change members because they are " not high rank " " not strong enough "

its sad that people have to swap an alliance around constantly and in the end you have like 2 original members and will end up recruiting a backstabber which will do you in

final 2 cents - subs = abuse of the game mechanics - pretty simpley cheating , the admins cant stamp it out but so it will run rife through all battledawns years which is ... sad

i only swap around member for the first 100-200 ticks, to get more active, epxpereinced, or supporters, into the main alliance- i dont recruit power, or kick for power, as long as the emmberlost units while following orders

Well even with their sub OFJ is not very strong.

lol ROTF has been swapping members/backstabbing kicked members all round long

But we dont have subs.. or need them and this is a matter of OFJ subs not rotf so stay on topic lol.. we have a few friendlies who decide to call themselves similar names which i have no idea why but there choice.. we dont see them as subs nor would help them so if we swap members around thats our choice and we dont need another 24-36 members watching our backs lol

well, considering that NONE of us support, and how GA, ROTF, and GODS spend over 100$ on a FREE, GAME

we are pretty strong

i haven't spent a cent on this round and i'm in GA.

the other members have