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simmen · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:32 am **Posts:** 15978

people shuld make NEWB alliance to help new players, it really work

i got NEWB to rank 2 in E5 so far

most of the newbs are higher ranked then me

LegionCommander · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:53 pm

Personally HOWL didn't want to refer WOOF and BARK as Subs. We just call them Brother Alliances (or sister alliances if corrected). Those other alliances joined in the beast alliance thing.

Knight of Zero · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:43 pm **Posts:** 360

chad_j93 wrote:

redwurm once more i disagree with you

i too had my start in a sub lol it was TK3 back when there was tk1-45 lol

i learnt alot and got my feet off the ground from there , sub bring alot of help for newer players

tho i am not one for subs i only like having 1 sub at any one time at most , but there happened to have been 2 made for us in this round

subs are not against the rules or abuse the system at all, you might say yes it does it is an extension of the alliance ! well it is not we gave them help and let them grow on our border sunder our protection ( this is sort of how DRTY grew coz without meow they would be nothing )

they are more like a friendly alliance who hhave a debt wioth us for gettign them off their feet , we have a strong bond with them and they have vowed to help us forever since it is us who got them to where they are

as for brucelee i didnt read your whole post but yeah ill state reasons at why DRTY is just a sub of MEOW ( KOR IS NOT )

DRTY - lives side by side with them
- obeys and helps meow whenver asked ( good allies yes , or just helping out of fear )
- offers their best men to meow and losses their own rank coz their good players join the main oops i mean meow
- cancels naps with friendlies to help meow in a war ( subs do this as their main comes first forever)
- i can go on but i cant be bothered

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! wow. how dare you even come here and continue to call them a sub like they are the devil for helping Meow. YOU HAVE DOGS, BARK, WOOF, M16, AND RAVN ALL FOLLOWING YOU WITH THEIR NOSES UP YOUR BUTT! so you really have no right to be rubbing DrTY's good name into the ground when you have a stupid sub empire. you say you have only 2 subs this round but how do you explain all the broadcasts from RAVN and DOGS.

Please explain how what you do is any better than the relationship between Meow and DrTY.

chad_j93 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:29 pm

ok , DOGS is not our sub

nor is ravn

the fact is , we and DRTY had a NAP , meow asked them for helps and they canceled our nap

DOGS RAVN and M16 , all hate meow , offered their hand in help ( tho have really not done too much )

is it my fault alliances that meow pushed around all round stood up against them and sided with us?

we had a standing friendship with DRTY and they took it away at meows request , This i would call follow meow like a sub would

sub empire you say? i wouldnt call 2 subs an empire

also as of RAVN , they msgd me when this first begun and said they would not help only after DRTY attacked on conquered one of their and me and another member moved in and took out DRTY did they say they may help

that broadcast is the latest thing ive seen from RAVN and i guess they have sided with us completely now

so yeah , DRTY cancelling our nap to follow MEOW blindly into war also makes them look like a sub...

Knight of Zero · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:43 pm **Posts:** 360

yea but does looking like a sub worthy of being bashed with name calling when the one who is crying sub already has 2 subs? my point is you have no right saying DrTY is bad because they act like a sub when you are worse for having 2 official subs.

simmen · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:32 am **Posts:** 15978

if they had their own political stands like NAPs they are probly not a sub..

redwurm · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:23 pm

chad_j93 wrote:

subs are not against the rules or abuse the system at all, you might say yes it does it is an extension of the alliance ! well it is not we gave them help and let them grow on our border sunder our protection ( this is sort of how DRTY grew coz without meow they would be nothing )

How are they not an abuse of the system? If the staff wanted you to be able to have more then 24 members in your alliance, they would have allowed it.

DrTY grew because I was running it for half the round, the first thing I did as the leader is form a ROUND LONG NAP with Meow. I knew from the get go who would win this round and made sure DrTY was on their side.

chad_j93 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:43 pm

Redwurm wrote:

chad_j93 wrote:

subs are not against the rules or abuse the system at all, you might say yes it does it is an extension of the alliance ! well it is not we gave them help and let them grow on our border sunder our protection ( this is sort of how DRTY grew coz without meow they would be nothing )

How are they not an abuse of the system? If the staff wanted you to be able to have more then 24 members in your alliance, they would have allowed it.

DrTY grew because I was running it for half the round, the first thing I did as the leader is form a ROUND LONG NAP with Meow. I knew from the get go who would win this round and made sure DrTY was on their side.

we dotn have mroe then 24 players , we have a good allied alliance that people called a sub

you contradicted yourself by saying if the staff wanted you to have more then 24 members then they would have let the limit be more

the fact is

if they wanted for subs to be illegal they would have , the admins never stated subs as a abuse of the system , nor are they a loophole or against the rules in any way

so go tell that to the admin not to me , we did not abuse nothing if the admins didnt want subs they would stop subs

at knight - i am calling DRTY a sub , they are the ones crying about it saying they are not . i openly admit that we use subs so what/ i am just stating that DRTY is in denial of te fact

redwurm · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:03 pm

You don't call those alliances of yours a sub? Why were they labeled GENEx and GENE2 or w/e they were called?

Get over yourself, DrTY is not a sub. Just because you sink low enough to use subs, doesn't mean you need to try and make others look as pathetic.

niracas · **Posted:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:52 pm

I posted a really really long article which may have gotten deleted(thanks), it may have been rude but I tried very hard to keep respectful and thought I hit submit finally.

Basically the grab every single alliance and throw tactics out the window to massively outnumber the other alliance makes me sick and ruins the game.

I went into the differences between DrTY and your blatant dog subs but you wouldn't digest the information anyway so it really doesn't matter, I wonder if what you say/type is what you believe or you do it knowing it is complete BS propaganda. Or if you actually think the game should just allow 150 person alliances maybe 2-3 per server. If so enjoy SUB-DAWN where no battle actually happens and all servers are pre-decided and tactics are mostly useless.

Subs and Subs of Subs of Subs! Is too Far