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 Post subject: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:08 am 
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Since the big physical update for the mythicals ,all i see are these OP meta Flawless Mechs in 1v1 matches

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Why these mechs are OP ?:

1: This thing will dear massive damage at EVERY DISTANCE , you cant run away from this thing no matter where you teleport

2: Rediculous Regeration thanks to the heat controls ,even lava sprays and inferno axe mechs having a hard time countering these mechs

3: None of the weapons this mech use consume energy except for the nova but for Experienced players they always had them used first during the start of the match anyway , by the time you drain this thing's energy to zero and do some extra damage , your HP bar is already at 1/3 and you get destroyed before you even have a chance to do any extra damage !

Since theres a huge update incoming , instead of releasing even more broken and unbalanced mythicals , why dont we buff the old mythicals that are used to be meta and useless ?

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Since the existence of heat controls , these things dont do anything to them since their cooldown are always above 120+

Buff stats:
Buff 20 to 40 cooling damage (25 to 50 for mk2)
Buff damage from 60-110 to 75-125 (70-125 to 85-145 for mk2)
Buff heat damage from 25 to 50 (30 to 60 for mk2)

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Buff stats :
Buff 20 to 40 regeneration damage (25 to 50 for mk2)
Buff damage from 60-110 to 75-125 (70-125 to 85-145 for mk2)
Buff energy drain from 25 to 50 (30 to 60 for mk2)

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Since the existence of the breakers and ultra novas mech , this used to be meta mythical is now on the same tier with the demolishers , if you compare shredders and needlers , you can see that needlers consume more recourse , deal less damage , drain less resistance ,yet it's weight is heavier than metal shredder ?its illogical !

Buff stats:
Buff 3 to 6 resistance drain (2 to 4 on mk1)
Buff 80-90 physical damage to 95-145 damage (90-140 on mk1)
Debuff range from 2-4 to only 3-4
Weight from 71 to 75 (69 to 74 on mk1)
Other stats stays the same

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Since the existence of the mk2 Piercing shotguns with 2-3 range these things are even worse compared to the legendary energy and heat shotguns

Buff stats
Buff damage from 35-115 to 45-140 per shot
Buff heat damage from 43 to 60 per shot
Weight from 65 to 60
Heat generation 25 to 15

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This thing consume five times more energy than the mk2 yet drain only 1/2 of the mk2 ? really ?

Buff stats
Buff damage from 35-115 to 45-140 per shot
Buff energy drain from 43 to 60 per shot
Weight from 65 to 60
Energy consumption from 25 to 15

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I can hardly see any difference between these blades and call of lightning/Hell Force since the release of the axes/hammers , and call of lightning is a rare item , A RARE ITEM !

Buff stats:
Buff 3 resistance drain to 4
Buff 48 to 68 heat damage to 75-95 heat damage
Buff 52 heat damage 55 cooling damage
Buff 1 knock back to 2 knock back
-6 max heat damage
-3 cooling damage
18 heat generation to 24 heat generation
Zero energy consumption

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Buff stats:
Buff 3 resistance drain to 4
Buff 48 to 68 energy damage to 75-95 energy damage
Buff 52 energy drain 55 energy drain
Buff 1 knock back to 2 knock back
-6 max energy damage
-3 regeneration damage
20 energy consumption

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Instead of the pity regeneration damage , why not add something new , like resource limit damage.

Decrease damage from 60-110 to only 75-95
-30 bullet storage damage ( 35 for mk2 )
-30 rocket storage damage( 35 for mk2 )

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WHAT THE *CENSORED* ARE YOU DOING HERE ?

Thats all for my personal opinion , if you had any better idea about balancing these things , feel free to comment below , i may as well accidently overbuffed these items too .

List of other useless mythicals i havent mention:
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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:40 am 
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I disagree with many of your buff suggestions but I agree with the items you said needed buffs. The buffs you gave to Cooldown Blocker for example would just plain out replace Death Punch. Think out your suggestions a bit more before you share them.

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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:48 pm 
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Sadly, they probably won't make any balancing changes for the foreseeable future. It wouldn't be as profitable as simply mixing up the meta every so often with new, slightly more OP mythicals. The players who run these builds have to spend heavily to keep up, and Tacticsoft can just continue to 'milk' them for as long as this continues. The current business model for SuperMechs encourages heavy spending and is very effective at getting these guys to spend as much as they can.

Of course the top players don't complain since they have super OP mechs, and nobody else really has enough influence to get any changes in, and even if they did, it's takes more effort and yields less profit than the current system.

This can and will continue as long as SuperMechs is a game. Forum protests are just empty words and are essentially meaningless as they aren't backed by any action. Give Tacticsoft a reason to change the system. Or just put up with it, I personally don't run into these monsters all too often (I use a God Mode heater build that works fine in 95% of matches), when you do then... well, you can't win 100% of the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:55 pm 
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Don't worry... I am sure they will balance the items "soon"! (most important word)

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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:46 am 
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Please balance the game. Please? =(

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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Put Electron Defense In There,
Also, Needle Blaster At Range 3-4 Would
Suck, I Like It's Buffed Stats, But 3-4 Needle
Blaster Would Suck And Make It Illogical Again


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 Post subject: Re: Buff Useless Mythicals
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:15 pm 
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Mythical items came as a joke in supermechs


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