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Slinkybd
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:28 am |
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Sortve makes sense. Its suppose to be a yearly thing. 
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:52 am |
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Pak pak pakak.... Nubs everywhere . NOw evrybody the Champ is here so Ladies come to me and gents get out of here. 
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:53 am |
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Slinkybd wrote: Sortve makes sense. Its suppose to be a yearly thing.   I'm assuming you mean it makes sense about cutting it short rather than them doing it without the courtesy of an explanation It still can be a yearly thing without them going back on their promise. Also its a trust thing. Its about the players trusting that when they make a commitment to the game the owners stick to their commitment to the players. If they can break their word on something this big why believe anything we are told in the future. I wouldn't make such a long term commitment to a game if i believed the owners would move the goal posts part of the way through just because it suited them. This ultimately comes down to one thing - they made a promise, they should stick to it!
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:01 am |
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I don't see it as quite as strongly as get1, but I will agree with the fact that they are hinting at CE ending by end of the year, but made no official announcement. Will it end exactly at midnight on new years eve? What timezone will they base it off of? A month and a half is NOT that much time in all seriousness. At the current rate, there will be no official CE champion. It's going to be more like an OC world where two or 3 teams hold relics. In all seriousness, I LOVE that, BUT back in the OC, people expected tick limits.
This CE, people did not and have played with the idea of only 1 winner will be allowed. I know for a fact RDH has been playing very patiently and smart. Making decisions that will benefit them in the LONG run rather than a quick boost in score. For instance, deciding to keep Moo allied even during the war with RU and Rome. Knowing they'd face off with PHIz and nubs afterwards, they kept Moo friendly as they knew I'd want to pay nubs a visit. They didn't make more enemies than they could handle. Even NJ has played quite reserved. They've been involved in just about all of the worlds wars in some way. Now with only a month and a half left, you expect the world to find a winner when Australia hasn't even been breached yet?! llll coalition MIGHT be dead by the time the new year arises, but even that is not a guarantee. So now, you just gave llll a great morale boost to survive and NJ/RDH absolutely no incentive to continue pushing. Because NJ and RDH do not have enough time to settle 1st place between each other without halting their war on llll right now. Instead, both will now be worried about out powering each other to raise their ranks. NJ to keep 1st, and RDH to become 1st.
This decision with such short notice is kind of a slap in the face to both NJ and RDH. More so to RDH. NJ only has to avoid dying and they become the CE champions by default. RDH has been busting their butts the last 1000 ticks and will be considered 2nd place still most likely. llll will most likely be able to hold out and survive for another month and a half and therefore, they get some individuals within the top 10 to earn medals and blues and they still end in 3rd/4th alliance wise.
There is absolutely no way a single winner will reign on top of the CE this year unless NJ and RDH come to an agreement and do some sort of battlehugs. So really, this decision is unfair to those currently on top and HIGHLY in favor of those who only need to hold out to preserve their ranks. And I'll bet you a LOT of players in subs will suddenly "quit" near the end of the era and the main alliances will simply be "killing inactives" and also gaining an enormous score boost. Then we'll have upset players who are ranked 11-20.
My suggestion is that it is fine if you wish to set a tick limit. But a month and a half is NOT enough time to settle this era. Normally, players get 2500 to 3000 ticks head notice as they enter worlds KNOWING there is a tick limit they must complete their plans by. You are currently giving about 1000 ticks notice and I don't think it's enough. I'd say you give them a normal amount of notice. About 3 months. It shouldn't be THAT big of a deal to let this CE go into February or March. But a sudden uncertain announcement is truly unfair to the players who have committed so much to this CE for there to not even be an official winner.
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:22 pm |
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Slinkybd wrote: Sortve makes sense. Its suppose to be a yearly thing.  Are u always behind admins/mods backside lol Always make excuses to defend them  And at malice, please stop with ur essays :p OC is in past, why do people keep refering to OC, i remember when NC came ppl were excited about something new, this game now relies heavily on being superactive... Thts what causes the battlehugs and what makes NC less competetive, coz ppl fear the oppisitions activty compared to them.
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:40 pm |
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Quote: Are u always behind admins/mods backside lol Always make excuses to defend them  Find me a single moderator that argues in favor of tick limit, lol. Malice disagrees with it, I very much disagree with it and I think we are the only ones that posted our opinion on it (unless I missed Ads' post). I've said it before, but I think a tick limit would be a mistake. Like Malice said as well, it would also be quite unfair towards RDH. Yes, PHIz has been fighting since the start and so has RDH, of course. But all era long we have based our choices on the fact that this era would have no tick limit. We went to war with KR/WeNo/HINI a few hundred ticks ago for that same reason. We felt we could take another war at the same time now that we were in good position and this was an ideal time to get rid of a potential enemy. For a score win it would make no sense, but this is an era where there can be only one true winner. We will keep playing it slow and without mistakes, because we don't think there will be an actual tick limit. This should be the last war, and even if it's not so what? There still is quite a bit of boosting, it's an incredibly competitive round with several alliances that are quite evenly matched and that have great, skilled players. It's the best era I've ever been in, and really shows how true teamwork in Battledawn works. Saying there is going to be a tick limit now is just admitting that Battledawn really is about battlehugs, because we would be penalized for NOT playing the battlehugs game and for just fighting all round.
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Slinkybd
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:40 pm |
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Comet1 wrote: Slinkybd wrote: Sortve makes sense. Its suppose to be a yearly thing.  Are u always behind admins/mods backside lol Always make excuses to defend them  And at malice, please stop with ur essays :p OC is in past, why do people keep refering to OC, i remember when NC came ppl were excited about something new, this game now relies heavily on being superactive... Thts what causes the battlehugs and what makes NC less competetive, coz ppl fear the oppisitions activty compared to them. No, however I just believe that everyone already knows why it's a bad idea to cut it early so when I comment defending an idea I'll try introducing some reasons as to why the unpopular side has a point. However maybe next time a CE shouldnt start in the middle of the year or whenever most people can be active. This one has shown that you can fight early on well and drag out an era. Maybe make it like 1000 ticks before the majority can get active next time. Idk ^-^ Either way I agree w/ Milan that a tick limit really is a sad thing to see. It doesnt show a deserving winner. But I do also see why they could want to end it. All the problems and what not w/ bans, attacks on site, controversy over game mechanics ect. This round has easily shown everything that the game can be exploited for. It should create more motivation to change the game.
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malicewolf
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:56 pm |
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Comet1 wrote: Slinkybd wrote: Sortve makes sense. Its suppose to be a yearly thing.  Are u always behind admins/mods backside lol Always make excuses to defend them  And at malice, please stop with ur essays :p OC is in past, why do people keep refering to OC, i remember when NC came ppl were excited about something new, this game now relies heavily on being superactive... Thts what causes the battlehugs and what makes NC less competetive, coz ppl fear the oppisitions activty compared to them. If you don't wish to read my input, you can simply skip it. I'm not going to become less detailed because you are too lazy to read my input  And you're right, OC is in the past, doesn't mean it can't be talked about. I brought it up as a comparison for the length in which this era has taken place. 4000 ticks was the OC limit. But even back then, MANY alliances did not get a full 10 relic win. However, these alliances KNEW the tick limit and made decisions based on this knowledge, in which they had ample time to make decisions and figure out if they'd rather have a pretty score at end game, or if they'd want to try duking it out until the last minute and risk some members falling off the top rankings. This era however, there was no notice at the beginning. EVERYONE was basing this on an unlimited tick limit. Decisions were made with that in mind. I personally have enjoyed this era a ton. I had my trolling fun and a bit of serious fun as well.
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:58 pm |
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Well as for the possible tick limit I do agree that a surprise tick limit has would put teams long term plans into big problems NJ and RDH mainly due to the llll could receive some respite as RDH and NJ will need to be more cautious and make less advancements giving llll a second chance so to speak. I honestly think that if there is a tick limit then it needs to be at least 3-6 months notice.
All in all if there is a tick limit proposed over the next week or two then it would completely change the idea of what this CE set out to stand for which is a decisive winner. Hopefully there will not be a tick limit put in place to end on new year otherwise there is a chance we will not see the outcome of the most significant and largest war of the era.
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:22 pm |
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The tick limit may sound unfair and disturbing to the alliances and players who are a part of war , but as a player who is not a part of war , for him it would be interesting to watch that at this current stage how do the things work
This will determine the diplomacy skills of the players and we would be eager to see what agreement is made with lll coalition and also between NJ and RDH
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