Cmon dont act like u dont know
Ofc ppl replace inacfive subs, but farming their ops and armies with them allowing u is farming, why ban some and make excuses for others?
Mods getting all these ppl and admins making excuses for them

Idc now, ita funny how some jump to make excuses for the cheeters since they cant defend themselves. Let the cheaters win, thts only way u can win these days... Means more $$$ for bd.

Tbh i think admins lost control, both sides seem cheating, they cant ban 1 and not the other coz tht will just give them more of a headache then they r getting now.

How is making sure you're not leaving yourself open considered wrong? If you're kicking someone, as long as they're dead (if that's what you want), it doesn't too much matter how you get there. I let my members take out others because I knew they were closer to R4 than I was. Does that mean we were xp farming at a bannable level because I did what was best for my team rather than what was best for me? It was my conquer that I was relocating to get to their army, so I guess that means I deserve it more than anyone else?

Killing inactives in your subs runs a risk. You gain enemies and you may even push them to become active due to their hatred of you. I'll say it again, I choose to leave them be because I'd rather not deal with the headaches. If i knew they weren't ever going to log back in and bother me, heck yea I'd kill them in a heartbeat for the xp.

You say "Mods" are getting all these people and admins to make excuses? My statements are not from a "Mod" standpoint. Nor is Milan, or Ads, or Andy. We do not abuse our powers as staff on the forums to influence the admins in anyway and saying such is quite frankly, insulting. The only power of influence we even have is to clean up messes on the forums. Heck, half the time I reach out to Ilona for anything, I don't even get an answer back (not saying I'm offended Ilona, but it's the truth ).

The reason I am backing up the side of RDH in this case is because the arguments against aren't sufficient. I pointed out an argument with much more evidence than was provided and the entire IIII coalition has completely ignored it and are continuing to spew on about how RDH MUST be cheating via xp farming. I don't see people demanding for The Catfight Lover to be banned right now even though he clearly wrote himself that he was going to log into another account to nuke me and my teammates. And even providing this to nubs coalition about their sub cheating, the only response I got back was "Not a main member, I don't care".

You say we ignore things with "clear evidence" but while saying such you are completely ignoring the clear evidence I provided and instead change the subject to the admin staff being corrupt and the mods pulling strings in the background. And as for the whole, "making excuses for cheaters who can't defend themselves" argument.... Milan has been on here arguing his case the entire time. G and I are simply putting in our 2 cents on the subject as well. Slinky even chimed in and he's not even fighting for EITHER side here (at least I don't think he is...).

And how is cheating mean more money for BD? It actually LOWERS the income BD gets as more and more people get fed up and leave. A majority of those still left are the hardcore loyalists who have spent money on BD anyways. And they're getting quite fed up with all the cheating as well and about ready to leave. From the sounds of it, most will be gone after this CE ends because they don't want to deal with this anymore.

Truthfully, I think people reach for things too much. BOTH sides. I've heard RDH, RBR, PHIz, and nubs all make accusations against one another. Heck, even my members in Moo (myself included) have made claims of others cheating. I will say that ALL sides have thrown out the cheater card a few too many times in cases where they were stretching to get a ban.

see malice what happened was, they sent 7 squads to kill about 50 or so. so you are saying that is not on a bannable level? cuz u totally know next time im in an era playing with malice, guarav, geen or milan im totally like NOT going to exp farm. ill just requote what u guys wrote and make sure my "non farming" is less than or equal to what you guys have done cuz apparently its acceptable

Why would they send more than 7 squads to kill 50 when they have R5 and R4?

At 1hp, 15 vehicles (1 squad) can kill 180 units.

So if all 7 were R5, that'd be 1260 units dead (Most likely, their target did not have this many units). So more than likely, 3-4 were R5 squads, probably 1 or 2 were R4 and then the rest new squads to gain xp on. This would clear away any large army and still gain you a very good amount of xp for those new squads.

Why would you NOT do this if you already had R4 and R5? Once you get a squad of R4 and R5, it's the EASIEST thing in the world to get more.

You can xp farm all you want if you ever play with or against me. It's part of the game. That's why you gain xp when you kill units. However, if I catch you asking players to make armor specifically to gain this xp, then yes, I will call you out. But when you have R5 already, you shouldn't be punished and not able to use it to the fullest. You don't see me complaining about ICEMAN's couple dozen of R5's. That's the reason nubs came out of their battle with us with such little damage. But I'm not complaining about it. In fact, good on ICEMAN for working to get those R5. I hope he did it legitly, but truthfully, I wasn't paying close enough attention to know for sure.

But anywho, please do feel free to hunt xp in the same manner that they are doing so right now. Just realize that it's very likely to bite you in the butt. It's always risky to take out a previous teammate.

I did so to Muha a little while ago and he msged my member who killed him with a threat to come after him. Now's its a question of whether or not the threat was empty.

Heck no xD In this context it's probably the best possible thing to do as it's efficient. They have a sub member kicked due to inactivity, he's going to be salty when he next logs on. Why wouldn't you kill him? Saves the hassle of having to deal with him when he is online.

To those saying why didn't he attack with 50+ squads so it wasn't XP farming, are you mental? RDH is in the middle of a war, the expenses travelling that many squads out from the front line would be insane, especially when he has a really cheap option of killing the army with a couple squads...

Just seems like players are looking for desperate attempts to get Milan banned.

Andy its b/c the boosting honestly. If not for the 100 mass boosts no one would have so many units. Now people complain but in regular eras it happens every era on smaller scales. No one is making units to die for someone here. Its just they think its wrong to kill allies and since so many units were made in 2000 ticks -roughly- a lot more R5 comes from it. They need something to complain about or its not BD anymore

ur missing the small fact that the member was in NJa when this occured. he was actually wearing the tag. remember these words well andy, when (and it will happen im sure) seth or simmen ban me for doing as you said is allowed, ill be sure to quote you and ilona very directly

Wait... Does Milan even fly the flag of NJ?

No, he flies the flag of RDH. The argument is not valid. Btw, NJ doesn't have (from my knowledge at least) R5 units. Making RDH the better choice for this clean up regardless. For NJ to clean up this potential mess, it could cost them armor units and full armies to kill their powerful sub member. Something they can't afford to do right now with their war going on.

This actually makes it even less of an issue in my opinion. They're not even considered a sub farm in any sense. NJ is it's own entity entirely and are also going for the win.

So anyway who wants to see the amazing display of 70(+-) nukes?