=_= Why can't players just man up and play the game like it's supposed to be. All the cheating and dirty tactics like DDOS attacks are just ridiculous. Considering that 90% of my movements are made EoT, this is the WORST for me regardless of anyone else's movements.

the old famous delay squads cheat, the modern teamviewer cheat, the annoying sibling pretext....

i propose 5 minutes per tic = noone can cheat a *CENSORED* in 5 minutes.

After proofs and more proofs all being refused by the Admins (since its two of 'em working in CE), I got this "last" (I hope) proof against Milan and Geen farming xp, and its not a commom farm of xp its SUB farming xp. I hope this time Admin can do something about it, bcuz when Rania and I were banned early it was bcuz we took 8 crystals from Kent (who had left us and still was neutral when we attacked) in few ticks (at this one they were really fast LoL).

So I hope something can be done OR gimme a nice, great, mega, hiper, super excuse to let 'em playing with those r4/r5 farmed xp on subs keep doing their dirty works.
And I got so many proofs and know you as an Admins has enough technology to check what happened.

Skillz Colony - http://i.imgur.com/PvRxKoR.png
Around Skillz Colony (No attacks on him) - http://i.imgur.com/SVpTMMN.png
Skillz Op Scan - http://i.imgur.com/OY9Zqn9.png
Milan and Geen attacking Skillz Op - http://i.imgur.com/FWgc2XD.png
Predator's Nuke Going to Skillz OP - http://i.imgur.com/7b6UiOW.png
The whole screen with the exactly Tick - http://i.imgur.com/08TUJmf.jpg

Ravage Moving out after nuke hits the op - http://i.imgur.com/MLE87rR.png

RDH2 leader - Konigstiger (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/kSTBBSH.png - http://i.imgur.com/daC0kYd.png
Member - Gamba (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/oWryJ3v.png - http://i.imgur.com/rmgNq3e.png
Member - Pittsburgh (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/wce0EkD.png - http://i.imgur.com/8RyMRya.png
Member - Donald Duck (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/1uRxbs9.png - http://i.imgur.com/zDxT4P2.png
Member - watch mode on (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/22YD6JI.png - http://i.imgur.com/sMwZSqb.png
Member - Winter (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/FpDbXJY.png - http://i.imgur.com/KioxDmC.png
Member - MandoWar (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/bjpXRu9.png - http://i.imgur.com/tACIwH2.png
Member - Ravage (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/RDkSv4t.png - http://i.imgur.com/lFnP24R.png
Member - Surprise MF (Current Power at tick 3569) - http://i.imgur.com/D6oJZBr.png - http://i.imgur.com/4FTfUdM.png

Screens After the Attack - at Tick 3573

DH2 leader - Konigstiger (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - Gamba (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - Pittsburgh (Current Power at tick 3573) - http://i.imgur.com/7liD0Wt.png - http://i.imgur.com/jwoHi8a.png
(Kicked but still with the same power, he maybe wont log in so soon to do not drop his power)
Member - Donald Duck (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - watch mode on (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - Winter (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - MandoWar (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - Ravage (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.
Member - Surprise MF (Current Power at tick 3573) - In alliance yet same power.

New member - Rorschach - http://i.imgur.com/dTqnBxn.png

At tick 3593 I see

Member - MandoWar - http://i.imgur.com/Ocp0oip.png - http://i.imgur.com/JKg0AOD.png
Member - Surprise MF - http://i.imgur.com/j8ro1fX.png - http://i.imgur.com/q6jqkAV.png
I still do not know how did they die.. I hope it was fighting someone else than Geen and Milan units.

How long the others member will last ?
How long for Geen and Milan get another one to farm ?
How long ... f*ck it I'm tired...
Do I need more proofs than this ? If so delete my account.

#This is what I get now, who can say they arent doing it a long time ago ? huh!? Wheres the justice ?

Time I sent to Admins- http://i.imgur.com/IgBO3fq.png
Their reply time - No reply within 24 hrs..
And we all know its a joke, right ?
CE got two Admins so it should be 12hrs, but how I'm a great person I gave 24hrs, as they didnt reply me I just brough it to forums.

Thanks, and have a nice day to all.

we both know they wont get banned dude. this is the main reason i am not playing for the side of RDH. god knows how but geen has his hand so far up their @$$ holes that he is controlling their mouths. All the bans on the side of llll have been on geen's request :X

and ya ilona before u put ur tampon on and start yelling for not enough proof, i can check IPs just as well as you can

I can tell you worked on this hard but you need to know the back story to the attack. Surprise MF and Mando haven't done anything all era and were getting kicked. In order to ensure all of europe doesn't get spammed with full armies, the best way was to kill them. Pitts was also kicked for inactivity as well.

Kael, I didn't think you disliked us that much. I would think if anyone would be suspected of dealing with admins too much it would be me.

As for those kills, they are players that quit and barely play anymore, but that could spam us. Some others that were in our sub have ended up joining enemies after being kicked, I'd rather avoid that.

Anyway, that first list of screenshots from you is me attacking Pittsburgh who I indeed was killing for exp.

The other one with MandoWar and SurpriseMF went wrong indeed, they were supposed to be kicked earlier but BOOM leader didn't get online when planned. The 2 members that are joining for them are already in the BOOM chat and everything, but like I said the leader hadn't kicked them yet.

You can ask any one of the people I killed, they didn't build units for me (or geen) to kill them. Many of the exp hunts have ended up with them spamming us afterwards or trying to spy us, or trap us. It's the same with those players, the difference being that we knew they were inactive.

I will attack anyone who is inactive for exp, and usually that ends up with that person being very annoyed at me. It's a risk you take everytime you go for exp. Tell me what the difference is between having a player kicked and waiting 50 ticks and then killing or doing it efficiently and doing it immediately?

As for Kael.. We didn't request bans, we asked the admins to look into it. When we see suspicious behaviour, we report it just like you do and should do. If you really accuse the admins of listening us when it comes to bans, I can tell you there would be few more bans if it was up to us but sadly Skype chats are no proof.

I do have to admit that as someone who has been in their position I am getting a bit sick of all these accusations against the admins. I haven't always been good friends with all the admins, but there isn't a single player on BD who could possibly sway Ilona to ban someone if there wasn't a good reason to ban that player anyway. What has she ever done to you?

They got backstabbed by both their alliance and the bigger one, killed while sleeping, and soon will be kicked(when the replacements reach 24 ct of course).Not RDH2's or RDH's fault that they are not active enough or have enough morale to fight back before getting kicked. Nothing illegal about that

~Capo

So as long as a player is inactive, it's OK to experience farm? Good to know it's only XP farming when your friend or ally builds an army for you and you use that army for free XP.

The evidence is quite clear, and it appears players will do anything not to just play with some kind of integrity.

What's even more flagrantly appalling is that Psi just asked for some admin for assistance to follow up on the matter and was blown off. When RBR/RDH mentioned some questionable actions about nubz they were able to get apparently innocent players banned on just word of mouth before an administrator came and rectify the problem. Can anyone else see the bias.

I'm personally disappointed that it's to much to ask to have some stand up players actually earn a win.

The diference is a BAN.

First of all those members have ur sub alliance tag, you are nobody to interfer in that alliance and decide if he will be kicked or not, or if is active or what he wanna be, you are playing like Tom Cruise in Minority Report, arresting murderers before they commit their crimes

You are not honestly going to try and make the case that it is farming if someone is inactive are you Gary? Because then you can make the argument that any newb we conquer is farming. The premise of getting income from conquering is that you conquer inactives, if they are active enough to attack back they are probably not worth the trouble.

As far as the no admin reply, I agree you should have one. Though I think they use the ingame messaging function much more than the forum one, I know I myself often overlook forum messages. Joe answered a message of mine 21 ticks ago, so they have been online in the last 24 hours. My guess is that Joe just didn't check his forum account.



We reported players because they appeared to be quite obviously account sharing. I still believe they were, all the signs were there. Just for the record I had reported this once before and instead of banning the ones we suspected one in NA, one of our allies, got banned for account sharing. Fair enough, if he was account sharing he deserved it too. Anyway, an ADMINISTRATOR placed the ban (I believe Ilona in this case) and the ban was temporary. I don't think it was ever rectified, though I might be mistaken in that regard.

You guys really seem to be trying really hard to make us come off as the cheaters here, despite the fact that our enemies in this war have been banned for account sharing, the fact that we have colonies who are conquered by nubs spamming us, and the fact that we have proof of Iceman paying other people to spam us.