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RunnerChase
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:12 pm |
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servers full i guess 
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Milanos
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:11 pm |
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princekael2 wrote: milan i though we all agreed that funding someone reds is in no way against the rules? Oh, not saying that part is against the rules. Just find it amusing that our opponents not just have had several bans for account sharing, they now also fund people to spam us. Even when those people build multiple accounts on a server. RunnerChase, the era is closed off for new people to join. Either way, to not make this all talk and no BRs..   That makes 5 of RU down, 5 to go.
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Ilona
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:56 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:02 pm Posts: 1763 Gender: female
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This case doesn't make me any headache at all
player 1 : ***LOHPH, created the account october the 4th, first online 2962 Player 2 : ***LOHPH, created the account october the 8th, first online 3055
playing on same IP, telling that they built from internet cafe....
Somehow, a fellow player managed it to nag on a co-worker that much that both would spam, that he logged into CE to look it up and decided that only 1 account is allowed. So he banned 1 perm and 1 only for 12h.
I honestly wouldn't have done it but I can understand his intention to do so. (after many messages we received about this case)
However, player 1 got unbanned and first he did was spamming again.
There is no way that I can accept and tolerate such a case. To be fair to all players means also that I have to do everything to avoid that they get harmed from hired guns and players who act as slave colonies. This goes for both sides and was also one of the reasons why I decided to close the server for new players. I also decided not to compensate for those. Its not an admins fault, and we did our best to avoid it. Cases like that happens on both sides, and the only way to be fair, can only be that we let them deal with that on their own. So this was the last exception kind of.
I really hope that such, yes, I would call them dirty tactics, will stop now and that on all sides. Also, I would prefer when we stop blaming each other who has more cheaters or who paid what to whom... The spirit of CE is that the team with the most skill, the most activity, and the best teamwork should win it. And not who complaint the most about the other side 
Thanks!
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Miirage
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:25 pm |
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Quote: I honestly wouldn't have done it but I can understand his intention to do so. (after many messages we received about this case)
However, player 1 got unbanned and first he did was spamming again. Quote: I also decided not to compensate for those. Its not an admins fault, and we did our best to avoid it. Cases like that happens on both sides, and the only way to be fair, can only be that we let them deal with that on their own. So you are saying it was a mistake to not perma ban "player 1" in the first place, yet "it's not admins fault, and we did our best to avoid it?" How many players from Nubs/PHIz side have been banned during this war? With perm bans and temp bans, I lost count after 10. How many have been banned from the NJ/RDH side? How can you say that this kind of stuff is happening on both sides? Please give some examples. Quote: The spirit of CE is that the team with the most skill, the most activity, and the best teamwork should win it. If you don't prevent cheating (including brothers in the same house playing on the same team which makes account sharing very easy), and you don't compensate the players who are cheated against, then it will be the team with the most planted players, multies, and account sharers that wins. I understand there is a concern for players pretending to cheat against themselves to get enemies banned... ...but are we really going to plant colonies, spam all of our own OP's, downgrade them and kill our own units just so we can ask you for compensation? Something needs to be done or it just gives the cheaters even more motivation to cheat.
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Gaurav
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:42 pm |
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Ilona wrote: Also, I would prefer when we stop blaming each other who has more cheaters or who paid what to whom... The spirit of CE is that the team with the most skill, the most activity, and the best teamwork should win it. And not who complaint the most about the other side  Thanks! [/color] There has only been one side that has complained about valid cheaters..aka not PHI/Nubs(IIII) coalition. There has been I count 1 ban on our side, and that was NA leader Kenan banned for another era. There have been now 9-10 bans on nubs/phi side. So for an admin to come here and say that we are just complaining, no we are pointing out facts that you admins are too slow to realize and that is we are fighting a coalition of cheats who think their boosting somehow allows it to be. Which, to be fair isn't even their fault, because ADMINS have made it so where big boosters can cheat and only be given temp bans This situation where we asked for compensation, you even admit that the admins messed up on by not banning the 1st colony permanently like you guys had to do now. The more active, skilled, and better teamwork alliances are still winning this war. No doubt about that either.
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princekael2
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:03 pm |
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gaurav1 wrote: Ilona wrote: Also, I would prefer when we stop blaming each other who has more cheaters or who paid what to whom... The spirit of CE is that the team with the most skill, the most activity, and the best teamwork should win it. And not who complaint the most about the other side  Thanks! [/color] There has only been one side that has complained about valid cheaters..aka not PHI/Nubs(IIII) coalition. There has been I count 1 ban on our side, and that was NA leader Kenan banned for another era. There have been now 9-10 bans on nubs/phi side. So for an admin to come here and say that we are just complaining, no we are pointing out facts that you admins are too slow to realize and that is we are fighting a coalition of cheats who think their boosting somehow allows it to be. Which, to be fair isn't even their fault, because ADMINS have made it so where big boosters can cheat and only be given temp bans This situation where we asked for compensation, you even admit that the admins messed up on by not banning the 1st colony permanently like you guys had to do now. The more active, skilled, and better teamwork alliances are still winning this war. No doubt about that either. 2 actually, rania was banned once as well. and tbh if we look at the actual people that SHOULD be banned for farming if the admins bothered to look at that, there would be a solid 100 on either side. not the least of which is geenstij, and top gun, both of whom i KNOW have asked for mana farms repetedly, but not limited to them. im well aware that MANY other players have asked for jams/scans just as well. thats just my 2 cents about it. just cuz people are not being banned does not mean they are not cheating. some are just worse cheaters then others  teamviewer for one, does exist. and im willing to place down money that people on either side are using it 
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Miirage
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:09 pm |
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Speaking from the perspective of a Raised by Robots member, whom have been on the frontlines since the beginning of this war, there has been absolutely no account sharing or farming or multies coming from us. We've been overpowered and on our toes for 11 days now, and having to deal with dirty "tactics" on top of it.
RBR were targeted by the cheater (who should have been perm banned the first time) and we lost OP's and some units because of it. So what has RBR done to be given the attitude of "...we let them deal with that on their own."?
The banned player got his Red Tokens. ICEMAN got the mess for us to clean up that he was hoping for. Compensating those who were harmed is at least a step towards deterring people from paying others to cheat.
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princekael2
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:01 pm |
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i think that which prevent it from happening now is the fact that the era is closed, no more entries. so therefore all you need worry about now is those who are already in the era, which for all intents CAN by the rules be bought and sold, much like renaissance nobles 
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ShadowReaperX
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:19 pm |
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princekael2 wrote: 2 actually, rania was banned once as well. and tbh if we look at the actual people that SHOULD be banned for farming if the admins bothered to look at that, there would be a solid 100 on either side. not the least of which is geenstij, and top gun, both of whom i KNOW have asked for mana farms repetedly, but not limited to them. im well aware that MANY other players have asked for jams/scans just as well. thats just my 2 cents about it. just cuz people are not being banned does not mean they are not cheating. some are just worse cheaters then others  teamviewer for one, does exist. and im willing to place down money that people on either side are using it  RDH has not used teamviewer or account shared for each other one bit lol. The whole era. Pretty sure all the fingers are being pointed toward nubs/phiz side. People are probably salty that they can't be as active. Just because Geen asks for jams/scans does not mean they are farms whatsoever. For example this BOOM member helps us all the time, is he considered a farm? Of course not.
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Milanos
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Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:43 am |
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Like Andrei said.. I am 100% sure that no one in RDH is using teamviewer to cheat or is account sharing. And since I am also in almost every of our ally's alliance chats, I feel quite certain in saying that I think none of our allies are. NJ, NJa, BOOM, RBR, AF, if anyone is cheating in there they are hiding it really well lol.
Of course the prime suspect remains Malice.. The guy is too active and did you see how fast his power shot up?! Something has to be wrong there.
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