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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:25 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:32 am 
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Ilona wrote:
I don't think there is any good or bad side.

Of course, bans happen, and I don't want to justify any form of account sharing but the pressure, especially, after such a long time must be enormous for all of you.

- Ilona


wow that is the most ridiculous thing i've seen written.


you are literally proving your bias by excusing their account sharing due to pressure.
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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:38 am 
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QUENTIN wrote:
Ilona wrote:
I don't think there is any good or bad side.

Of course, bans happen, and I don't want to justify any form of account sharing but the pressure, especially, after such a long time must be enormous for all of you.

- Ilona


wow that is the most ridiculous thing i've seen written.


you are literally proving your bias by excusing their account sharing due to pressure.
:x :x :x :x :x :x :x


Now now, lets not go into Lazar territory here (I think we all had more than enough of that!). Ilona's statement is that she can "understand" people being under a lot of pressure and perhaps resorting to this type of play style because of it. She is NOT promoting account sharing, nor is she saying she is, indeed, only temporary banning account sharers. The admin's decisions have been made on each separate situation based on the information available to them. Even I will say I'm not happy with some of the one's made recently, but I also know I do not have every bit of information AND that the admins will make what they think is the best decision. I will believe in the admin's decisions. I know they're got their hands tied up on many occasions as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:40 am 
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malicewolf wrote:
QUENTIN wrote:
Ilona wrote:
I don't think there is any good or bad side.

Of course, bans happen, and I don't want to justify any form of account sharing but the pressure, especially, after such a long time must be enormous for all of you.

- Ilona


wow that is the most ridiculous thing i've seen written.


you are literally proving your bias by excusing their account sharing due to pressure.
:x :x :x :x :x :x :x


Now now, lets not go into Lazar territory here (I think we all had more than enough of that!). Ilona's statement is that she can "understand" people being under a lot of pressure and perhaps resorting to this type of play style because of it. She is NOT promoting account sharing, nor is she saying she is, indeed, only temporary banning account sharers. The admin's decisions have been made on each separate situation based on the information available to them. Even I will say I'm not happy with some of the one's made recently, but I also know I do not have every bit of information AND that the admins will make what they think is the best decision. I will believe in the admin's decisions. I know they're got their hands tied up on many occasions as well.


no that statement says she understands why theyre doing it ( acc sharing ). and she proves her bias by only slapping them on the wrist for 24 hours after multiple offenses

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:44 am 
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malicewolf wrote:
QUENTIN wrote:
Ilona wrote:
I don't think there is any good or bad side.

Of course, bans happen, and I don't want to justify any form of account sharing but the pressure, especially, after such a long time must be enormous for all of you.

- Ilona


wow that is the most ridiculous thing i've seen written.


you are literally proving your bias by excusing their account sharing due to pressure.
:x :x :x :x :x :x :x


Now now, lets not go into Lazar territory here (I think we all had more than enough of that!). Ilona's statement is that she can "understand" people being under a lot of pressure and perhaps resorting to this type of play style because of it. She is NOT promoting account sharing, nor is she saying she is, indeed, only temporary banning account sharers. The admin's decisions have been made on each separate situation based on the information available to them. Even I will say I'm not happy with some of the one's made recently, but I also know I do not have every bit of information AND that the admins will make what they think is the best decision. I will believe in the admin's decisions. I know they're got their hands tied up on many occasions as well.

Malice no one in their right mind can take away from how difficult of a job it is to admin a round, especially one like CE. However, this has nothing to do with what information is available or not. Ilona statement of "understanding" for why players are resorting to cheating is not a promotion but as Quentin posted an "excuse" for their actions. Players that have been around for YEARS and YEARS have no excuse to be cheating, it's an affront to all those not cheating and still playing at the same level. Temporary ban of 24 hours? what a slap on the wrist for these players who KNOW better but still resort to cheating to gain an unfair advantage and an admin saying yeah I understand, is laughable at best.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:51 am 
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the problem is with the whole system not the admins, currently if you can prove that you have a brother or other family member who also plays from the same IP (by providing a picture or smth) then its seemingly ok.

I remember in the past things where a lot different, with Admin Simmen in galaxy, when me and my friend played from the same IP (school), we got banned at first and then we agreed with Simmen, that whenever we would make a move from the same IP, we would both inform him on skype about it. It was very complicated and annoying, but fair.

I get that this is completely unrealistic in the case of this era, but it shows that we needed more than just a picture of us with open browsers showing BD.

I think the best solution would be to force people playing from the same IP to at least be in different alliances. It gets very frustrating when you see 2 or 3 people make the same move at the same time all day long, when they aren't even all online on skype.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:23 am 
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To get banned you must cheat, and because so many of the nubs/arms coalation is getting banned it means we're playing against cheaters... Not all of them are cheating but the ones who do just stop. Even if you win you win as a player that was banned MULTIPUL times for cheatimg and that just makes you look bad. No glory at all.



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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:53 am 
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I just think its hysterical that after the war started and new colonies popped up all around us for spamming purposes the server was locked. Regards to Milan, of course you do not feel that the admins are bias......you got away with coordinated farming......I mean "a mistake". Pff. Now the interesting part of this era begins........The behind the scenes politics and under the table deals.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:14 pm 
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SnOwDoG wrote:
I just think its hysterical that after the war started and new colonies popped up all around us for spamming purposes the server was locked. Regards to Milan, of course you do not feel that the admins are bias......you got away with coordinated farming......I mean "a mistake". Pff. Now the interesting part of this era begins........The behind the scenes politics and under the table deals.

The only new colonies I saw pop up were family and friends of current players, since apparently family is allowed to play together as we learned from the unbanning of the "three" nubs bros.

Have yet to see any of those new colonies spam anyone though. Baseless accusations coming from the side with what is it now? 6 bans in the past day or 2. Keep it coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:33 pm 
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SnOwDoG wrote:
I just think its hysterical that after the war started and new colonies popped up all around us for spamming purposes the server was locked. Regards to Milan, of course you do not feel that the admins are bias......you got away with coordinated farming......I mean "a mistake". Pff. Now the interesting part of this era begins........The behind the scenes politics and under the table deals.


When the war started you got spammed in several places yes because I coordinated with those people. Not one of them was new, in fact every single one was already conquered when the war began. Unless I missed some, but we had quite some sats up and I did not see any new colonies placing to spam you.

Anyway, you can keep coming back to the "farming", but those 7!!! crystals actually were simply a mistake, and I don't really see how it would matter anyway whether NJ or us has the crystals. They're your enemies' crystals in either case. What bothers me much more is account sharing, and I think that everyone can agree account sharing with hundreds of squads is a much more serious problem than a dispute over 7 crystals.

Ilona has been fair as far as I can see, even if I do not agree with the way she has handled the bans. Account sharing should be a longer ban in my opinion, and I've made that clear. But Ilona is the admin, she decides, and you can be sure she isn't doing favors to friends. Gotta give her that.

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