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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:44 pm 
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How much of a case is needed? 2 people , 1 house , 2 colony`s all most round the clock someone plays these accounts.Gets banned for crystal farming . Goes back to a mans word. They have a license to cheat and nothing is done. So whats the next step after rational argument has been ignored?


All I see are beaten horses in these 2 topics, and a horse being beaten here. You're a fool because you want the Admin to see things from your point of view, and when the Admin replies with a reasonable response, you refuse to see things from their point of view.

You scream: "I WANT THESE PEOPLE BANNED NOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS AGAINST THE RULES!"

Admin says: "I don't see anything from my end that confirms your theory, we are closely monitoring the accounts and already have countermeasures in place that disallow people in the same household on the same era to do certain things."

You scream back: "BUT I WANT THEM BANNED AND SINCE YOU WON'T DO IT YOU'RE CORRUPT AND GIVING THEM A FREE PASS TO CHEAT"

You argue like a child. You don't get your way because your 'reasonable' argument is a bunch of repeated shouting of conspiracy theories. The Admins do a ton of work trying to make things as fair as possible and while they're not perfect they're far from being corrupt evil admins that are trying to take your candy. You don't know all the facts and until you try to look at things from their perspective you won't get close to putting up a reasonable argument.

As for the relic placement:

6/10 of the relics were in reach of KMO. This isn't unfair, they are smack dab in the middle of the map and positionally have the reach to go into 3 continents and contest 5 different oceans. Out of all the relic placements I've seen in the eras I've played, this CE is perhaps the most fair. I don't understand why Tony or KMO are upset. NJ has 3 relics, and of those 3 relics, 2 were unable to be contested by any other alliances except for friendlies.

So KMO was only about to take 2 out of the 6 relics they could've gotten because they were warring. Well that's KMO's decision. It's the smart decision. If you have 1 relic that's all that matters because no one can get 10. So focus on the war. If you're all frustrated that you only have 2, then why didn't you back off the war and go contest the other 4 you decided not to?

I know KMO isn't insulting the admin or calling them corrupt but Lazar is. So Lazar, what would be more fair? Allowing KMO to contest 7 of the 10 relics? 8? all 10? Would it be more fair if the relics they could contest were pretty much sitting on their coastline instead of directly in middle of the ocean?

I think it would be more corrupt to make decisions like that. Admin did the relic placement right when the era began and did a good job making sure that each continent had about 2 contestable relics each. It was very well done.



about cheating : admins said
"We CANT know who is behind computer of siblings when they are online"
so they give them permition to have 2 accounts in same world , and they CANT control if they cheat and if only 1 of them control both accounts ( if both accounts are online 24/7 for period of 10 days, only moron wouldnt say that they switch shifts - especialy on 3 tick/h world where "micro sleeping " isnt possible ) .
also , where are WRITEN rules about siblings? i want to read it, to see. who can play with more accounts on 1 world, what proof is needed , what those who use that permition must give as proof they will not cheat?
or is only needed to buy tons of reds?
my words are completly legitime, cause i didnt get any other answer from admin then :

"we cant know if there is only 1 or both of them on computer when both accounts are active"

and when i asked can my sister play with me, admin said
" no , you will cheat"

how you KNOW that i WILL CHEAT , and you CANT KNOW are people you already gave permition CHEATING NOW ?



and now about relics deployment:

this Kenny guy said that each continent had 2 relics!!!
yes, if you count Australia as continent, it had 2 relics that only one side could reach .
yes, North and South America had 2 relics each, those 2 in South America could take only one side .

ok, lets make comedy:

so , Europe Asia and Africa had 4 relics ( how is that 2 relic per continent??? more like 1,33 ) .
and what is size of Australia on map???
why didnt you set 5 relics to Australia?
it is huge continent, 90% of Earth, should be 5 relics atleast for Kenny.

and Tony cry that admin wasnt fair to him, he has only 3 relics, and Ourania have 1
in Tonys mathematics, 1 is probably bigger number then 3 ...

admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?
maybe in Germany


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:55 pm 
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1516202899 wrote:
I don`t see why relics just don`t start at tick 1 but with a shield , so everyone would know exactly when they are free to capture and it would be completely random where they end up.


I`m not gonna argue relic placement. I don`t see it over biased to anyone. Just like my idea better. Then there would be no arguing....


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:01 am 
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Lol . I have proven defamation of character as well as "non conclusive evidence" which I think hold weight. Messages that hint to the fact they did share accounts. So I believe beyond a reasonable doubt they are guilty of accused crime. I played them and experienced it. Does make me biased. Agreed to that point. But my mind is made up. And in my mind these cheaters get away with there crime. Why attack the accuser? Would you attack a woman yelling rape? Maybe that's why so many don`t come forward. I`m sorry I don`t agree with admins ruling. But because YOU do not agree with me does not make me wrong. ( 2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable.) So how would you catch said crime of these account sharers? You sir and your argument is laughable from where I sit.
I tell the woman to shut up because there is no rape happening.

"2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable"

If the admin is monitoring the situation (has to be contacted, players in question get special marking), and the game disallows the players in question from doing certain things outright (such as trading resources, and attacking), then how is this cheating?

These players are already monitored more than I am for questionable activities. They already are disallowed from doing things I can. I don't see why or how they would cheat tbh.

You and many others recited that they must account share and have near 24/7 activity. They must do shifts on both accounts! How dare they cheat! What I don't get about this argument is what stops you from having near 24/7 activity on your one account? There is no way for the admin to know who is behind the computer screen. I could easily just teach my roommate how to play BD and have them take over for me whenever I'm not around and they are. How is the admin supposed to know undeniably who is behind my computer screen? So 2 brothers play 2 accounts from 1 location. You have evidence they're doing shifts. You have messages that 'hint' that they shared accounts. So what? How's this supposed to look to the admin any different than the player got woken up by his friends and moved by himself?

You're right. You've made up your mind. No matter what the admins or I say you're going to continue your stubborn outlook on it. I'm asking that you stop looking it from only your point of view and consider what the admins are seeing and having to deal with. I'm calling you a fool because you made your mind up without viewing it from another perspective. You said it yourself. Of course my argument looks laughable to you, because you're not going to consider the other point of view. It's silly that Ilona doesn't just ban people that you think should be banned. It's silly that people disagree with your whole crying wolf.

Go cry somewhere else. It's pathetic.

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and now about relics deployment:

this Kenny guy said that each continent had 2 relics!!!
yes, if you count Australia as continent, it had 2 relics that only one side could reach .
yes, North and South America had 2 relics each, those 2 in South America could take only one side .

ok, lets make comedy:

so , Europe Asia and Africa had 4 relics ( how is that 2 relic per continent??? more like 1,33 ) .
and what is size of Australia on map???
why didnt you set 5 relics to Australia?
it is huge continent, 90% of Earth, should be 5 relics atleast for Kenny.

and Tony cry that admin wasnt fair to him, he has only 3 relics, and Ourania have 1
in Tonys mathematics, 1 is probably bigger number then 3 ...

admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?
maybe in Germany


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So let's see: Africa can access 3, Europe can access 1(technically 2 since they can reach the African relic), Asia can access 3, Australia/Indonesia can access 2, North America can access 2, South America/AA can access 3.

I think anyone crying about this is a moron. The placement is pretty spot on.

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why didnt you set 5 relics to Australia?
it is huge continent, 90% of Earth, should be 5 relics atleast for Kenny.


Yes, because I've obviously been arguing that we should've been able to access more. We were only able to access 2 of the relics, 1 of them could've been easily contested by KMO (they had an outpost or 2 in Japan, much closer than the eta from papua new guinea)

It was pretty fair placement. Had TLA been KMO coalition like Rania wanted then technically KMO would've had that relic.

Also Europe Africa and Asia had 6 contestable relics. It's clearly there do I need to circle for you?

I'm not defending Tony. His crying is just as misplaced as your crying.

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admins place 5 relics in North and South America , and 2 in Australia .
fair placement?


Yeah, but 3 of those relics can be contested from areas KMO controlled. In 2 of the cases they were actually closer ETA.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:08 am 
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If there should be any arguing about something unfair this era it should be Bringing more than 1 other alliance to help you win.

It has long been acceptable to bring a sub to help you out early in era.

This is my first era playing since the first CE and i noticed this problem on that era also. So im assuming these people are doing this on regular servers also.

Bringing what is it 8 alliances? i dont even want to try counting how many alliances ourania brought here to help win it.

Maybe we should start arguing over this guys, and this is a serious argument im not trying to flame there is nothing against the rules to have dozens of people come help you. but it ruins the experience for other alliances.

NJ started at tick 1 when i told anthony that yes we should play the CE we had the 24 hours of frozen ticks to get alliance members. all people here helping and contributing to war are people we met on the server and "played" the strategy game of building allies instead of bringing 8 alliances who do anything we ask.

ill stop talking now.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:21 am 
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1516202899 wrote:
1516202899 wrote:
I don`t see why relics just don`t start at tick 1 but with a shield , so everyone would know exactly when they are free to capture and it would be completely random where they end up.


I`m not gonna argue relic placement. I don`t see it over biased to anyone. Just like my idea better. Then there would be no arguing....



I am not against that in general, but I am on CE.
The relic placement on such a server is always an issue, and Joe and me had a lot thoughts about it.
Relics move fully random and change their direction. What would happen when we see that by coincidence all relics move to 1 continent short before the protection runs out? If the admin is online at that time, he /she would have to change the directions of the relics and THAT would be doubtable.
Also, it would increase battlehugs and hand-overs or even more bad, an alliance with enough money could buy the relics (or agreements for no attacks) if they are not close to their territory.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:25 am 
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sorry, I forgot to add the picture that explains the relic placement hopefully a bit better.


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I doubt its even possible to make it more fair :)


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:27 am 
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trevor1601 wrote:
If there should be any arguing about something unfair this era it should be Bringing more than 1 other alliance to help you win.

It has long been acceptable to bring a sub to help you out early in era.

This is my first era playing since the first CE and i noticed this problem on that era also. So im assuming these people are doing this on regular servers also.

Bringing what is it 8 alliances? i dont even want to try counting how many alliances ourania brought here to help win it.

Maybe we should start arguing over this guys, and this is a serious argument im not trying to flame there is nothing against the rules to have dozens of people come help you. but it ruins the experience for other alliances.

NJ started at tick 1 when i told anthony that yes we should play the CE we had the 24 hours of frozen ticks to get alliance members. all people here helping and contributing to war are people we met on the server and "played" the strategy game of building allies instead of bringing 8 alliances who do anything we ask.

ill stop talking now.



yes, this with milion subs is realy terrible... you are right, those people with so many subs are realy annoying...

wait, which alliance are you?
NJ, NJo, NJi, NJa, Nj17... ??

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:37 am 
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lazar1903 wrote:


yes, this with milion subs is realy terrible... you are right, those people with so many subs are realy annoying...

wait, which alliance are you?
NJ, NJo, NJi, NJa, Nj17... ??

:)


if u read my actual post you will see that we started alone. we didnt have a sub till after tick 100(?)

and who told you to start here lazer? maybe offered you some favors in exchange for other servers?

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:39 am 
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Lolowut wrote:
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Lol . I have proven defamation of character as well as "non conclusive evidence" which I think hold weight. Messages that hint to the fact they did share accounts. So I believe beyond a reasonable doubt they are guilty of accused crime. I played them and experienced it. Does make me biased. Agreed to that point. But my mind is made up. And in my mind these cheaters get away with there crime. Why attack the accuser? Would you attack a woman yelling rape? Maybe that's why so many don`t come forward. I`m sorry I don`t agree with admins ruling. But because YOU do not agree with me does not make me wrong. ( 2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable.) So how would you catch said crime of these account sharers? You sir and your argument is laughable from where I sit.
I tell the woman to shut up because there is no rape happening.

"2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable"

If the admin is monitoring the situation (has to be contacted, players in question get special marking), and the game disallows the players in question from doing certain things outright (such as trading resources, and attacking), then how is this cheating?

These players are already monitored more than I am for questionable activities. They already are disallowed from doing things I can. I don't see why or how they would cheat tbh.

You and many others recited that they must account share and have near 24/7 activity. They must do shifts on both accounts! How dare they cheat! What I don't get about this argument is what stops you from having near 24/7 activity on your one account? There is no way for the admin to know who is behind the computer screen. I could easily just teach my roommate how to play BD and have them take over for me whenever I'm not around and they are. How is the admin supposed to know undeniably who is behind my computer screen? So 2 brothers play 2 accounts from 1 location. You have evidence they're doing shifts. You have messages that 'hint' that they shared accounts. So what? How's this supposed to look to the admin any different than the player got woken up by his friends and moved by himself?

You're right. You've made up your mind. No matter what the admins or I say you're going to continue your stubborn outlook on it. I'm asking that you stop looking it from only your point of view and consider what the admins are seeing and having to deal with. I'm calling you a fool because you made your mind up without viewing it from another perspective. You said it yourself. Of course my argument looks laughable to you, because you're not going to consider the other point of view. It's silly that Ilona doesn't just ban people that you think should be banned. It's silly that people disagree with your whole crying wolf.

Go cry somewhere else. It's pathetic.


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As for brothers in question http://prntscr.com/3nnezn I want to know how I trolled his brother when at the time of this message I had not attacked or Jammed his brother ,.,,,, pretty obvious to me they share for the only way I could have trolled his brother would have been when it was his shift on the only account I was fighting.


This is how I see it. If you see it other wise you are wrong. Crystal farming came later....... guilty of one crime. Completely innocent of the other because admins can`t be wrong. But anyone can be wrong. Even you. I`m not crying about anything. Just expressing my dissatisfaction in defense of all the slander against Lazar. But I am sick of people standing up for these cheaters. To insist that these highlighted colony`s and rare checks would have caught anything/everything is completely absurd. Well I am not an admin so can`t say exactly what took place on there end. But I have no doubt as to quilt. Sadly my evidence only works because I know I never trolled his brother , so why does he say I did? I`m not asking admins to ban because I ask. I am merely expressing my view on the matter. They are as welcome as you are to disagree with me.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:51 am 
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1516202899 wrote:
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1516202899 wrote:
Lol . I have proven defamation of character as well as "non conclusive evidence" which I think hold weight. Messages that hint to the fact they did share accounts. So I believe beyond a reasonable doubt they are guilty of accused crime. I played them and experienced it. Does make me biased. Agreed to that point. But my mind is made up. And in my mind these cheaters get away with there crime. Why attack the accuser? Would you attack a woman yelling rape? Maybe that's why so many don`t come forward. I`m sorry I don`t agree with admins ruling. But because YOU do not agree with me does not make me wrong. ( 2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable.) So how would you catch said crime of these account sharers? You sir and your argument is laughable from where I sit.
I tell the woman to shut up because there is no rape happening.

"2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable"

If the admin is monitoring the situation (has to be contacted, players in question get special marking), and the game disallows the players in question from doing certain things outright (such as trading resources, and attacking), then how is this cheating?

These players are already monitored more than I am for questionable activities. They already are disallowed from doing things I can. I don't see why or how they would cheat tbh.

You and many others recited that they must account share and have near 24/7 activity. They must do shifts on both accounts! How dare they cheat! What I don't get about this argument is what stops you from having near 24/7 activity on your one account? There is no way for the admin to know who is behind the computer screen. I could easily just teach my roommate how to play BD and have them take over for me whenever I'm not around and they are. How is the admin supposed to know undeniably who is behind my computer screen? So 2 brothers play 2 accounts from 1 location. You have evidence they're doing shifts. You have messages that 'hint' that they shared accounts. So what? How's this supposed to look to the admin any different than the player got woken up by his friends and moved by himself?

You're right. You've made up your mind. No matter what the admins or I say you're going to continue your stubborn outlook on it. I'm asking that you stop looking it from only your point of view and consider what the admins are seeing and having to deal with. I'm calling you a fool because you made your mind up without viewing it from another perspective. You said it yourself. Of course my argument looks laughable to you, because you're not going to consider the other point of view. It's silly that Ilona doesn't just ban people that you think should be banned. It's silly that people disagree with your whole crying wolf.

Go cry somewhere else. It's pathetic.


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As for brothers in question http://prntscr.com/3nnezn I want to know how I trolled his brother when at the time of this message I had not attacked or Jammed his brother ,.,,,, pretty obvious to me they share for the only way I could have trolled his brother would have been when it was his shift on the only account I was fighting.


This is how I see it. If you see it other wise you are wrong. Crystal farming came later....... guilty of one crime. Completely innocent of the other because admins can`t be wrong. But anyone can be wrong. Even you. I`m not crying about anything. Just expressing my dissatisfaction in defense of all the slander against Lazar. But I am sick of people standing up for these cheaters. To insist that these highlighted colony`s and rare checks would have caught anything/everything is completely absurd. Well I am not an admin so can`t say exactly what took place on there end. But I have no doubt as to quilt. Sadly my evidence only works because I know I never trolled his brother , so why does he say I did? I`m not asking admins to ban because I ask. I am merely expressing my view on the matter. They are as welcome as you are to disagree with me.




admin and friends of this cheating siblings try to sell us story about "highlight siblings, more rules , more monitoring"....
how much they monitor them is obvious when last month I CATCH Monthap in crystals farming in LAST day of F5 era where he almost become no1 all times. so i catch him, when i enter era in last day, and not admin that monitor that world every day....

he already had 888 crystals, from farming his partner and all his friends around- almost all crystals in world, and admin with this "special monitoring" didnt notice it till last day of era and my reaction and reports and explanation how cheater did all .


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