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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:14 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:55 pm 
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Whats the problem of Tony lol

His logic:

If i lose units.. blame admin
i didnt get relic *cry* and then blame admin
i lose war *cry* x2 and then blame admin

w t f are u serious lol, u nag like a kid.. grow up be a man, face the problems.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:43 pm 
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1516202899 wrote:
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Q, " well how do you expect someone to react?"

A, With common sense and courtesy

Haven't you been reading this thread? :roll:


Common sense is not so common. Or understanding apparently for him to be so slandered. But I guess that goes over into the courteousness of the issue. Is one suppose to be kind to thy opponent/enemy? I suppose so. It is better to hold friends on all sides. Problem is who can be trusted? A man`s word is the most sacred thing he will ever have. Sad how some treat so poorly. Betrayal is part of the game. And cheaters DO prosper. As well as the innocent getting punished. Problem is life just is not fair , and this game is not perfect. And these things you expect? Good luck.


See, you I can handle. Wisely said, even if you were arguing my statement. I'm assuming you are in SRB, or at least in the KMO coalition based on your statement. While I understand the frustration of dealing with cheaters, I also understand the frustration the admins must go through as well. However, throwing a temper tantrum on the forums at the admins is not the answer. Well stated arguments do well to convince people and sway the crowds.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:00 pm 
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See, you I can handle. Wisely said, even if you were arguing my statement. I'm assuming you are in SRB, or at least in the KMO coalition based on your statement. While I understand the frustration of dealing with cheaters, I also understand the frustration the admins must go through as well. However, throwing a temper tantrum on the forums at the admins is not the answer. Well stated arguments do well to convince people and sway the crowds.


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How much of a case is needed? 2 people , 1 house , 2 colony`s all most round the clock someone plays these accounts.Gets banned for crystal farming . Goes back to a mans word. They have a license to cheat and nothing is done. So whats the next step after rational argument has been ignored?


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:41 pm 
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I cannot take anything lazar says seriously lol. Its almost like when I read his name, I instantly think of whatever he's trying to say and make it about something being racist or something completely aside from the point he attempted to make. That said, its odd how the relic would end up right in the hive of KMO. Would've seemed less weird in Europe but it doesn't matter at this point.

KMO is already down in this war as they've been unable to kill PhiZ for the longest time now. If that isn't enough nail-biting news, NJ, RDH, and WSS are forcing the KMO coalition back off of GL and seem to be taking command of the situation. Further reports will become ready in the future.


Hummm , are`t you conquered by NJo? Isn`t that farming? As you obviously support there side.......
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Oh well then nvm. That is embarrassing lol. But not as embarrassing as the KCA coalition's beatdown is gonna be. xD


Kinda sad you wanna talk crap. But you are now called out for abusing the system. So by effect your arguments and slandering are mute.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:00 pm 
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1516202899 wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=29850
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How much of a case is needed? 2 people , 1 house , 2 colony`s all most round the clock someone plays these accounts.Gets banned for crystal farming . Goes back to a mans word. They have a license to cheat and nothing is done. So whats the next step after rational argument has been ignored?


All I see are beaten horses in these 2 topics, and a horse being beaten here. You're a fool because you want the Admin to see things from your point of view, and when the Admin replies with a reasonable response, you refuse to see things from their point of view.

You scream: "I WANT THESE PEOPLE BANNED NOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS AGAINST THE RULES!"

Admin says: "I don't see anything from my end that confirms your theory, we are closely monitoring the accounts and already have countermeasures in place that disallow people in the same household on the same era to do certain things."

You scream back: "BUT I WANT THEM BANNED AND SINCE YOU WON'T DO IT YOU'RE CORRUPT AND GIVING THEM A FREE PASS TO CHEAT"

You argue like a child. You don't get your way because your 'reasonable' argument is a bunch of repeated shouting of conspiracy theories. The Admins do a ton of work trying to make things as fair as possible and while they're not perfect they're far from being corrupt evil admins that are trying to take your candy. You don't know all the facts and until you try to look at things from their perspective you won't get close to putting up a reasonable argument.

As for the relic placement:

6/10 of the relics were in reach of KMO. This isn't unfair, they are smack dab in the middle of the map and positionally have the reach to go into 3 continents and contest 5 different oceans. Out of all the relic placements I've seen in the eras I've played, this CE is perhaps the most fair. I don't understand why Tony or KMO are upset. NJ has 3 relics, and of those 3 relics, 2 were unable to be contested by any other alliances except for friendlies.

So KMO was only about to take 2 out of the 6 relics they could've gotten because they were warring. Well that's KMO's decision. It's the smart decision. If you have 1 relic that's all that matters because no one can get 10. So focus on the war. If you're all frustrated that you only have 2, then why didn't you back off the war and go contest the other 4 you decided not to?

I know KMO isn't insulting the admin or calling them corrupt but Lazar is. So Lazar, what would be more fair? Allowing KMO to contest 7 of the 10 relics? 8? all 10? Would it be more fair if the relics they could contest were pretty much sitting on their coastline instead of directly in middle of the ocean?

I think it would be more corrupt to make decisions like that. Admin did the relic placement right when the era began and did a good job making sure that each continent had about 2 contestable relics each. It was very well done.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:05 pm 
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1516202899 wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=29850
viewtopic.php?f=416&t=30067

How much of a case is needed? 2 people , 1 house , 2 colony`s all most round the clock someone plays these accounts.Gets banned for crystal farming . Goes back to a mans word. They have a license to cheat and nothing is done. So whats the next step after rational argument has been ignored?


All I see are beaten horses in these 2 topics, and a horse being beaten here. You're a fool because you want the Admin to see things from your point of view, and when the Admin replies with a reasonable response, you refuse to see things from their point of view.

You scream: "I WANT THESE PEOPLE BANNED NOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS AGAINST THE RULES!"

Admin says: "I don't see anything from my end that confirms your theory, we are closely monitoring the accounts and already have countermeasures in place that disallow people in the same household on the same era to do certain things."

You scream back: "BUT I WANT THEM BANNED AND SINCE YOU WON'T DO IT YOU'RE CORRUPT AND GIVING THEM A FREE PASS TO CHEAT"

You argue like a child. You don't get your way because your 'reasonable' argument is a bunch of repeated shouting of conspiracy theories. The Admins do a ton of work trying to make things as fair as possible and while they're not perfect they're far from being corrupt evil admins that are trying to take your candy. You don't know all the facts and until you try to look at things from their perspective you won't get close to putting up a reasonable argument.

As for the relic placement:

6/10 of the relics were in reach of KMO. This isn't unfair, they are smack dab in the middle of the map and positionally have the reach to go into 3 continents and contest 5 different oceans. Out of all the relic placements I've seen in the eras I've played, this CE is perhaps the most fair. I don't understand why Tony or KMO are upset. NJ has 3 relics, and of those 3 relics, 2 were unable to be contested by any other alliances except for friendlies.

So KMO was only about to take 2 out of the 6 relics they could've gotten because they were warring. Well that's KMO's decision. It's the smart decision. If you have 1 relic that's all that matters because no one can get 10. So focus on the war. If you're all frustrated that you only have 2, then why didn't you back off the war and go contest the other 4 you decided not to?

I know KMO isn't insulting the admin or calling them corrupt but Lazar is. So Lazar, what would be more fair? Allowing KMO to contest 7 of the 10 relics? 8? all 10? Would it be more fair if the relics they could contest were pretty much sitting on their coastline instead of directly in middle of the ocean?

I think it would be more corrupt to make decisions like that. Admin did the relic placement right when the era began and did a good job making sure that each continent had about 2 contestable relics each. It was very well done.


You argue by putting words in my mouth ,and name calling. You sir are not worth talking to.... Admins are people too. I fully understand they don`t see my side. Does not make my side wrong , or admins guilty of anything. And yes they DO have a free pass to cheat. I just want these brothers not to be able to play same server ....... that would satisfy me. Until then I am unsatisfied.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:09 pm 
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You argue by putting words in my mouth , you sir are not worth talking to....


You posted the topics and everyone can read the stupid conspiracy frenzy you and many others recited. Just because I pointed out how silly it is doesn't mean that wasn't the general gist of what you people were saying.

Are you not name calling when you call the Admin corrupt? It's hypocritical to tell me I can't insult you in an argument where you willingly insulted the other party. If you're going to spout stupid conspiracies and call the admins corrupt then calling you a stupid conspiracy theorist is not out of bounds.

Brothers are already inhibited, given a special marking, and watched. If we disallowed brothers from playing we'd have to also disallow people ever playing from the same IP. I login from BD from wherever I happen to be at the time. It'd be unfair to inhibit my play because I go places other than my home frequently.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:21 pm 
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Lolowut wrote:
1516202899 wrote:
You argue by putting words in my mouth , you sir are not worth talking to....


You posted the topics and everyone can read the stupid conspiracy frenzy you and many others recited. Just because I pointed out how silly it is doesn't mean that wasn't the general gist of what you people were saying.


Lol . I have proven defamation of character as well as "non conclusive evidence" which I think hold weight. Messages that hint to the fact they did share accounts. So I believe beyond a reasonable doubt they are guilty of accused crime. I played them and experienced it. Does make me biased. Agreed to that point. But my mind is made up. And in my mind these cheaters get away with there crime. Why attack the accuser? Would you attack a woman yelling rape? Maybe that's why so many don`t come forward. I`m sorry I don`t agree with admins ruling. But because YOU do not agree with me does not make me wrong. ( 2 people 1 house , 2 colony`s, undeniable.) So how would you catch said crime of these account sharers? You sir and your argument is laughable from where I sit.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:41 pm 
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You argue by putting words in my mouth , you sir are not worth talking to....


You posted the topics and everyone can read the stupid conspiracy frenzy you and many others recited. Just because I pointed out how silly it is doesn't mean that wasn't the general gist of what you people were saying.

Are you not name calling when you call the Admin corrupt? It's hypocritical to tell me I can't insult you in an argument where you willingly insulted the other party. If you're going to spout stupid conspiracies and call the admins corrupt then calling you a stupid conspiracy theorist is not out of bounds.

Brothers are already inhibited, given a special marking, and watched. If we disallowed brothers from playing we'd have to also disallow people ever playing from the same IP. I login from BD from wherever I happen to be at the time. It'd be unfair to inhibit my play because I go places other than my home frequently.

If you want to refute my argument , feel free to quote me. "Are you not name calling when you call the Admin corrupt?" I don`t believe I have called them corrupt over this issue. So feel free to quote me WITH OUT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

So can we agree to disagree? Cause I DO NOT LIKE YOU, and do not want to talk to you. I really hate when people put words in my mouth.


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