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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:36 am 
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Nothings changed on the forums, I see. Moot point though.

Btw my brother wants to play BD. I sent pm to admin. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:42 am 
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lazar1903 wrote:
i have dog who want to play BD with me. he is very smart, and he want to make colony in E6 .
i have picture of him and me on computer, so if admin find some multie of me in E&, dont bann me, it is just my sibling dog.

you cant stop my dog to enjoy game with me, he will be sad and he then refuse to eat.

we promisse that we will not cheat, and we wil beheve , scouts honour .

my cat also wants to play BD, but i am afraid that admins will not trust to me on my word that cat can play BD . we all know that cats are sneaky and they like to cheat .


As much as you think your joke is witty (though I will admit, quite amusing), it does not actually oppose what I said at all. You would throw all those whom have legitimate family and RL friends to the fire to rid yourself of the cheaters as well. Doing so however, will result in a worse situation rather than a better for BD. It is never a good idea to burn everyone to root out a few of the bad seeds.

Yes, we all want to rid ourselves of the cheaters, but in the process, you could condemn sayan and his brother (using these 2 PURELY AS AN EXAMPLE as sayan is fighting on the same side as Lazar in this scenario) so that you could win this one case of "potential" cheating? It is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:00 am 
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malicewolf wrote:
lazar1903 wrote:
i have dog who want to play BD with me. he is very smart, and he want to make colony in E6 .
i have picture of him and me on computer, so if admin find some multie of me in E&, dont bann me, it is just my sibling dog.

you cant stop my dog to enjoy game with me, he will be sad and he then refuse to eat.

we promisse that we will not cheat, and we wil beheve , scouts honour .

my cat also wants to play BD, but i am afraid that admins will not trust to me on my word that cat can play BD . we all know that cats are sneaky and they like to cheat .


As much as you think your joke is witty (though I will admit, quite amusing), it does not actually oppose what I said at all. You would throw all those whom have legitimate family and RL friends to the fire to rid yourself of the cheaters as well. Doing so however, will result in a worse situation rather than a better for BD. It is never a good idea to burn everyone to root out a few of the bad seeds.

Yes, we all want to rid ourselves of the cheaters, but in the process, you could condemn sayan and his brother (using these 2 PURELY AS AN EXAMPLE as sayan is fighting on the same side as Lazar in this scenario) so that you could win this one case of "potential" cheating? It is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.



1. i am SRB , and we shure dont use siblings
2. Sayans brother isnt playing CE , that is shure, and you are trying to misslead people with that lie.
IF Sayans brother is in CE, then they should be both banned , also. rules are rules, and should be same for all.
that is point:
Siblings ( if they exist realy, this PHIz are probbaly just banned multies who get away with cheap exuse ) have huge advantage , and becouse of 10 of them with this permition to cheat , 1000 fair players are in bad and unfair position.
when rights of 10 cheaters are bigger then rights of 1000 fair players?
i dont care if they cant go to friends who play BD on few hours, what are you talking about???

i think that you are protecting sibling cause you are one of those


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:18 am 
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Adminning the CE is like if we're basically sitting on a powder keg, and playing with fire. Sometimes I get the lighter, sometimes Joe does and we are never sure when or in what direction it will explode :lol:

I didn't even know that one of the player has a sibling as he got banned for logging into another account which I took as his multi.
He got unbanned after 48 hours and after that he admitted it that he logged into it. (first offense benefit)
Thats it!
I have no idea who said that he should send me a picture or that he got unbanned after telling me that its his brother? Nothing of this has ever happened.

Funny that also the "boosters get unbanned" conspiracy is back. Even with that you are wrong, Lazar.

What remains is the bitter taste, that no matter what I do, it will be seen as wrong.
Oh well, you can't please everyone ...
Nevertheless, and perhaps for this very reason, I am happy to see that some also come to the forum to say their opinion and that they trust the decisions an admin has to make sometimes knowingly that we might see more than a player can see.

We try to be as fair as possible, and if there is a question, you can always ask us. Sometimes and especially when it comes to reasons for a ban we did, we can't answer though as bans are always handled between the player and the administration only.
But I surely prefer a message in-game instead these wild speculation which are not even true at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:55 am 
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Ilona wrote:
Adminning the CE is like if we're basically sitting on a powder keg, and playing with fire. Sometimes I get the lighter, sometimes Joe does and we are never sure when or in what direction it will explode :lol:

I didn't even know that one of the player has a sibling as he got banned for logging into another account which I took as his multi.
He got unbanned after 48 hours and after that he admitted it that he logged into it. (first offense benefit)
Thats it!
I have no idea who said that he should send me a picture or that he got unbanned after telling me that its his brother? Nothing of this has ever happened.

Funny that also the "boosters get unbanned" conspiracy is back. Even with that you are wrong, Lazar.

What remains is the bitter taste, that no matter what I do, it will be seen as wrong.
Oh well, you can't please everyone ...
Nevertheless, and perhaps for this very reason, I am happy to see that some also come to the forum to say their opinion and that they trust the decisions an admin has to make sometimes knowingly that we might see more than a player can see.

We try to be as fair as possible, and if there is a question, you can always ask us. Sometimes and especially when it comes to reasons for a ban we did, we can't answer though as bans are always handled between the player and the administration only.
But I surely prefer a message in-game instead these wild speculation which are not even true at all.




i dont buy this:

2 players were playing every day ( very active) from same IP, and BD catch them cheating ( playing from same IP) after 20 days!
and they are free becouse they admit ( what they admit ? cheating?)

how you catch them playing from same IP only after 20 days???

are you so bad in catching multies?

and brothers PRO players , siblings, didnt know about rule before this?

your story is full of holes .

anyway, you CANT allow players from same house to play in same world, it is apsolutely out of control, and it is against rights of 1000 other players who play fair and hard against this cheaters .

when we load BD , there are words about multie accounts on same world, and words:
" play fair like everyone else ! "

siblings are not playing fair like everyone else, IF they ever exist : 1. what prooves they are realy exist in real life???
2. how to proove they dont cheat when is needed to move another siblings army when he is away , working, sleeping ?

if i sleep, i loose army, if sibling sleep, his brother move army for him.

this is not going to work this way, gentlemen AND LADIES !


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:09 am 
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id like to bring up a recent post u made ilona, in which you said about xtal farming that it was unfair to the 999 other players who didnt have friends that could give them xtals. is this not the same? having a brother or sister on the same server is rediculous. it is unfair to the other people that say dont have a brother or sister that can poke them awake every few ticks if something goes bad :) this needs to be changed

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:28 am 
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lazar1903 wrote:
Ilona wrote:
Adminning the CE is like if we're basically sitting on a powder keg, and playing with fire. Sometimes I get the lighter, sometimes Joe does and we are never sure when or in what direction it will explode :lol:

I didn't even know that one of the player has a sibling as he got banned for logging into another account which I took as his multi.
He got unbanned after 48 hours and after that he admitted it that he logged into it. (first offense benefit)
Thats it!
I have no idea who said that he should send me a picture or that he got unbanned after telling me that its his brother? Nothing of this has ever happened.

Funny that also the "boosters get unbanned" conspiracy is back. Even with that you are wrong, Lazar.

What remains is the bitter taste, that no matter what I do, it will be seen as wrong.
Oh well, you can't please everyone ...
Nevertheless, and perhaps for this very reason, I am happy to see that some also come to the forum to say their opinion and that they trust the decisions an admin has to make sometimes knowingly that we might see more than a player can see.

We try to be as fair as possible, and if there is a question, you can always ask us. Sometimes and especially when it comes to reasons for a ban we did, we can't answer though as bans are always handled between the player and the administration only.
But I surely prefer a message in-game instead these wild speculation which are not even true at all.




i dont buy this:

2 players were playing every day ( very active) from same IP, and BD catch them cheating ( playing from same IP) after 20 days!
and they are free becouse they admit ( what they admit ? cheating?)

how you catch them playing from same IP only after 20 days???

are you so bad in catching multies?

and brothers PRO players , siblings, didnt know about rule before this?

your story is full of holes .

anyway, you CANT allow players from same house to play in same world, it is apsolutely out of control, and it is against rights of 1000 other players who play fair and hard against this cheaters .

when we load BD , there are words about multie accounts on same world, and words:
" play fair like everyone else ! "

siblings are not playing fair like everyone else, IF they ever exist : 1. what prooves they are realy exist in real life???
2. how to proove they dont cheat when is needed to move another siblings army when he is away , working, sleeping ?

if i sleep, i loose army, if sibling sleep, his brother move army for him.

this is not going to work this way, gentlemen AND LADIES !



And once again.... Who said brothers, who said same house, who said same IP???
Did the player said that to you or where do you gain your knowledge???


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:30 am 
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lazar1903 wrote:
Ilona wrote:
Adminning the CE is like if we're basically sitting on a powder keg, and playing with fire. Sometimes I get the lighter, sometimes Joe does and we are never sure when or in what direction it will explode :lol:

I didn't even know that one of the player has a sibling as he got banned for logging into another account which I took as his multi.
He got unbanned after 48 hours and after that he admitted it that he logged into it. (first offense benefit)
Thats it!
I have no idea who said that he should send me a picture or that he got unbanned after telling me that its his brother? Nothing of this has ever happened.

Funny that also the "boosters get unbanned" conspiracy is back. Even with that you are wrong, Lazar.

What remains is the bitter taste, that no matter what I do, it will be seen as wrong.
Oh well, you can't please everyone ...
Nevertheless, and perhaps for this very reason, I am happy to see that some also come to the forum to say their opinion and that they trust the decisions an admin has to make sometimes knowingly that we might see more than a player can see.

We try to be as fair as possible, and if there is a question, you can always ask us. Sometimes and especially when it comes to reasons for a ban we did, we can't answer though as bans are always handled between the player and the administration only.
But I surely prefer a message in-game instead these wild speculation which are not even true at all.




i dont buy this:

2 players were playing every day ( very active) from same IP, and BD catch them cheating ( playing from same IP) after 20 days!
and they are free becouse they admit ( what they admit ? cheating?)

how you catch them playing from same IP only after 20 days???

are you so bad in catching multies?

and brothers PRO players , siblings, didnt know about rule before this?

your story is full of holes .

anyway, you CANT allow players from same house to play in same world, it is apsolutely out of control, and it is against rights of 1000 other players who play fair and hard against this cheaters .

when we load BD , there are words about multie accounts on same world, and words:
" play fair like everyone else ! "

siblings are not playing fair like everyone else, IF they ever exist : 1. what prooves they are realy exist in real life???
2. how to proove they dont cheat when is needed to move another siblings army when he is away , working, sleeping ?

if i sleep, i loose army, if sibling sleep, his brother move army for him.

this is not going to work this way, gentlemen AND LADIES !


Firstly, to Ilona and all the other admins who work their butt off for not only BD but the players, I will say thank you for all your hard work. I hope you can ignore players like Lazar and continue to do your best for the community as a whole.

And as for Lazar, feel free to spout your feelings about cheaters. I could care less as I also oppose cheaters, but I also know that there are limitations to what the admins can use as proof. While we may differ on the "line" for which someone should be permanently exiled from BD existence, I truly hope you can get it through your skull that the admins are here for YOU, the player. When the players start hurling insults at them, they are much less likely to want to help you out and unfortunately, that can potentially spread negatively on other players. I'm glad we have admins who actually care enough to talk to their player base and interact with us.

And prince - How do you suggest we stop this? We kill everyone's brothers and sisters? Because they can wake you up regardless of whether or not they play BD. And once again, I'd much rather face someone I KNOW has a brother or sister playing than one who I don't know. Because the only thing banning family from playing will do is encourage account sharing and that will be absolutely impossible to prove. Now you have a 24/7 active player whom you cannot prove is not 1 person. Hell, I'm sure there are already those players playing the CE now. I doubt they will out themselves for the benefit of this conversation

EDIT: Ilona - I believe it was snowdog who stated they were brothers.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:33 am 
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Thanks for coming and taking the time to let us know your paying attention to whats going on, in game, and on the forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:38 am 
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Ilona wrote:
lazar1903 wrote:
Ilona wrote:
Adminning the CE is like if we're basically sitting on a powder keg, and playing with fire. Sometimes I get the lighter, sometimes Joe does and we are never sure when or in what direction it will explode :lol:

I didn't even know that one of the player has a sibling as he got banned for logging into another account which I took as his multi.
He got unbanned after 48 hours and after that he admitted it that he logged into it. (first offense benefit)
Thats it!
I have no idea who said that he should send me a picture or that he got unbanned after telling me that its his brother? Nothing of this has ever happened.

Funny that also the "boosters get unbanned" conspiracy is back. Even with that you are wrong, Lazar.

What remains is the bitter taste, that no matter what I do, it will be seen as wrong.
Oh well, you can't please everyone ...
Nevertheless, and perhaps for this very reason, I am happy to see that some also come to the forum to say their opinion and that they trust the decisions an admin has to make sometimes knowingly that we might see more than a player can see.

We try to be as fair as possible, and if there is a question, you can always ask us. Sometimes and especially when it comes to reasons for a ban we did, we can't answer though as bans are always handled between the player and the administration only.
But I surely prefer a message in-game instead these wild speculation which are not even true at all.




i dont buy this:

2 players were playing every day ( very active) from same IP, and BD catch them cheating ( playing from same IP) after 20 days!
and they are free becouse they admit ( what they admit ? cheating?)

how you catch them playing from same IP only after 20 days???

are you so bad in catching multies?

and brothers PRO players , siblings, didnt know about rule before this?

your story is full of holes .

anyway, you CANT allow players from same house to play in same world, it is apsolutely out of control, and it is against rights of 1000 other players who play fair and hard against this cheaters .

when we load BD , there are words about multie accounts on same world, and words:
" play fair like everyone else ! "

siblings are not playing fair like everyone else, IF they ever exist : 1. what prooves they are realy exist in real life???
2. how to proove they dont cheat when is needed to move another siblings army when he is away , working, sleeping ?

if i sleep, i loose army, if sibling sleep, his brother move army for him.

this is not going to work this way, gentlemen AND LADIES !



And once again.... Who said brothers, who said same house, who said same IP???
Did the player said that to you or where do you gain your knowledge???


Exactly! What siblings??
all i see here is account share and legal bann , then he made up some story, "admit " that he has sibling, and you lett them go free!

this is lesson for all players: when you cheat and account share , and Ilona catch you , just "admit " that you have sibling, and she will lift bann, "becouse it is your first time "

i doubt that she will lift ban from me if she has any doubts.
we all know that this curtesy is reserved for small circle of players ...


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