Just Fight Nubs why be a crybaby @ PHIz? I see ya all just acting tough but your actions point the other direction.
You got like 10 subs and are shouting about sub empires. HaHa

I really dont get why people are talking about NASA splitting off still in these forums. So here is my take one what went down.

I made it very clear from when I joined NASA that I wanted to go for 1st place. If that wasn't on the table I would have left and started my own alliance or join one of numerous other top alliances that offered me membership (NJ for example). I was not the only one with these sentiments Shadow had the same idea as did galileo, einstein, and davinci.

Now when I joined I was told that we were allied with KCA (I joined early in the era and was not a pre-chosen member and was never even in the coalition alliance chat) I asked whether we were going for first. Viper and rania both told us no. Shadow, myself and a few others were ready and going to leave the alliance when viper "negotiated" a deal with rania. This is the following deal that I was told by Viper (the leader).

Before I post it I just want to say that I dont like posting screenshots of skype conversations, but since this contains no compromising information and the other side is pretty adept at denying things and framing us as the vilains I'll post it as proof of what was told me June 4th which would have been around tick 40ish of CE. Especially since I know that they'll try and frame me as a liar.



Here is Viper telling us to stay in the alliance and not leave because we can be brother alliances work together all era and that in the end we can decide who wins the era based on merit on who actually deserved the win based on their performance in that era not some list before the era even starts. I agreed to this. shadow agreed to this. Eintein, davinci, Galileo and the rest of the alliance (namely Viper) agreed to this. From what I was told this deal was coming to us straight from rania via her close friend Viper. Had Viper not made this deal with us we would all have left start of the era and made our own alliance no issue. The matter was settled and no one even mentioned rank 1 for quite a while.

Later on in the era at like tick 150-200ish Shadow brought up going for rank 1 again and rania and viper both flipped out on him, yelling at him, threatening to kick him, and telling him that we were never going to even get a chance at first. That we built here only to get second place. Which is conflicting to everything that Viper told me and told the others to get us to stay in that alliance at the beginning of the era. Making it clear that either rania lied to us or Viper lied to us without her knowledge.

Then a vote was proposed with two options either we could support KCA and get second place or we could split off and go for first. Once again the deal that viper made with me where we both work together at brother alliances and in the end have whichever alliance deserves it based on performance receive the win wasnt included in this vote. It was no longer an option. So we were lied to in order to be kept in this alliance from the start of the era. Lies to stop us from leaving NASA and starting our own alliance.

So we took the vote and Viper lost the vote. We permitted anyone who just wanted second place to leave peacefully. Viper however enraged immediately tried to kick all of us from the alliance after having deceived us all era. Luckily we manage to vote in a new leader, but not before he kicked shadow and killed all his units. Even despite all this we still did not conquer Viper and kill his units.

TLDR: We were playing for 1st all era, but were deceived into staying in the alliance under the promise that we would work together as teammates and the more deserving at the end of the era would win. When the truth was clear we split off as it was too late for the 6 of us to start our own alliance.

what cullen just wrote above is 100% true. i back it fully. viper and rania will not win this era, due to lying in such a fassion. the funny thing is the moment a team was peeled to deal with us, arm was able to force a relocation and managed to regain much ground. rania this is directly at you. you see that they are better at war then you are. you see diplomacy failed, and you see you now have to fight for it. what card do you have left to play that will get you a rank 1 position?

ps- RoFL you have snowballed all ur E3 wins up until now. this is not a snowball as the power on both sides is relatively the same. time to fight for it

Wait, so anyone wanna fill me in on what's going on?

Who's going against who now?

KCA and thier subs CnC, SRB, HINI where moving in to kill PHIz in Asia.
Knowing that if PHIz died we (RDH) would be next, we decided to try and prevent such a shift in power by attacking HINI in North America.

By doing so, we where able to relieve PHIz of some pressure, however got a strong reaction from KCA subs, getting spammed by 1v1, HaHa, WeNo and HINI.

RDH is not invading north america, while PHIz is trying to push back KCA.

Far away from all this NJ allaince is killing CP in AA.

Thats all the wars im aware of.

RDH is now* invading north america.

Also another main reason we attacked HINI was because they attacked our sub MDH. I'm trying to get him to send me BR's of him losing his op and units to HINI but at the moment he doesn't know how to take a screenshot and upload it lol.

2 players of PHIz were banned . one temporary ( maybe 12 hours only ) , and one permanent.
now i see that even that permanent bann cheater is unbann.
that prooves what form of game this is.
and that prooves who this PHIz players are.
and that prooves who are admins of BD.

every action has its reaction.
this cheating afair will not go away just like that .

i play by rules and i respect it even they are not fair.
i spend time in this game, and if someone doesnt respect my time, he doesnt respect me .
if other side doesnt respect rules, i will force that side to respect it, or i will have my satisfaction , one way or another .

The perm ban that you are referring to was a miss understanding of the rule's meaning that 2 people in the same household (brothers) were playing the game. This my first era with this guy, so I assume he is new to the game. His error:

1-Did not inform us of his brother (really ticked me off)
2-Most importantly, failed to inform the admin of this

I realize how frustrating this may be, trust me I have been on the other side of the fence. I think we all have. Regards to the other temp ban, this was a clear misunderstanding of the rules through a conversation and said player and the admin had. Personally, I would tone down the temper being that flaming is against the rules as well. I have seen people get banned in the forums for worse things.

again- cheating by siblings.
that is worst form of cheating, and BD allows it .
when that will stop?
letting 2 players in same house having 2 accounts so they can change shifts during day and 1 cover both accounts ... THAT is WORST form of cheating - LEGAL cheating with blessing of admins.
one picture of 2 players is enough for that permittion: you can even take some randome guys from facebook -this is rediculous !

ofcourse , one picture and lot of reds

this is sharade, this is making fair players look as fools .

siblings rule is pure cheating, and there is NO CONTROL for that .

well, there is hudreds of players in this CE, they should complain now or accept it .

how those phiz cheat much, baned, unban, use multies in subs .... and using 2 accnts one in phiz one in rbr alliance .....
what a sense

here everything is inversed fss
cheaters

snowdog u didnt gave a single argument of what u say from page 1. considering ur age, seem u missed something in live. u need reborn