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aister · **Posted:** Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:44 pm

if u said that we don't know anything about the game, and don't want to listen to us, then I'll also say u don't know anything about the game and will not listen to u also.

I agree, removing 2nd and 3rd will not TOTALLY remove the hugging problem. HOWEVER, it will remove a part, if not a big part, of it. And in these days, with battlehug is being a big problem, even any attempts to cure it is welcomed, let alone something that will give a good result as this one.

I appreciate that u are teaching newbies on ur own. But if u are teaching them to rely on the 1st rank and get 2nd (or 3rd) along with blue tokens, u're doing it wrong.

ezbolah · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:22 am **Posts:** 65

no i teach them first and the most important thing is the willingnes to do something
you can achieve more if you try
some wont be able to fight for a rank 1 team now even tho i promote them and show them how it is like to get even 2 week's of less to no sleep
the best way for them to learn is going thru every stage - tokens help also in the learning procces couse they are a part of the game
i never like the concept of no fighting get's prizes bu in fact i consider that if you are active and play you should recive something
i replace people who do nothing with people that are more deserving
but the teaching process is limited if you take away rank 2 and rank 3 prizes since all the experience player will just try to stick together in top teams leaving noone to teach the others players that are new
so will there be competition if all will just build armour fleets ? - as an example when i was starting this game i was part of a sub ... i was building just armour couse i thought that having to pay less for them is better even tho they had less damage and more hp
it taken me about 800 ticks of that era until someone seen what i was doing to start explaining to me what was all the meaning of armour damage and range
not all noobs end up in aanc and even tho they reach in aanc i am sure the % of the people who will get in ranked teams will get lower and lower

Dessyboy · **Posted:** Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:26 pm

ezbolah wrote:

not all noobs end up in aanc and even tho they reach in aanc i am sure the % of the people who will get in ranked teams will get lower and lower

I was in the AANC and look at me now. And most if not all of the newbs that enter into the AANC get help, and when they ask there's almost always someone to reply within 4-5 hours.

And no the problem is the amount of achievements people have. I've seen what could be perfectly good players get passed up for someone with 20/32 achievements. But thats just from watching

ezbolah · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:22 am **Posts:** 65

yeah i know people search for achievements also but i would prefer a noob with 5 achievements that is willing to learn and active any day of the week instead of a 30 level achievement player who only logs once every day
that is why i prefer to put new people to the test by promoting them since i know that if we fight 2 alliances for one goal even if some new player makes a mistake there won't be that huge of a problem ( but even there a mistake made in the wrong place can mean the end of an era )
but when you play for rankings and to level the plainfield with an alliance that boosts then having experience counts also couse you can't have someone that you don't know what they are doing to make a mistake like building damage units instead of range or building antifighters instead of anticruisers and so on
that is why i wanna fight for them
you could atleast try and make a noob play ground for each part of BD where new people can test the skills for less tokens - rank 1-2-3 dont get anything more then 400 tokens and even let it battlehug friendly - that wont hurt the game if it will be setup like 1 tick world or anything - atleast that you can do

Charlesmohapatra · **Joined:** Thu May 02, 2013 12:04 am **Posts:** 280

ezbolah wrote:

i see you are like a god here and a programer that you keep answering like you do know what the problem really is and you have all the data to improve so why did the admins even make the board disscusion ?
since you are mister know it all with enough experience then great - what else there is to do
but unless you can just write the same thing with quotes then please let the posts like i mentioned so that the admin's can see the situation at hand
we have a saying if one person tells you that you are dumb then he might be mistaking but if 2 say the same thing then you there must be a truth to all of this
so if more then 2 people ( and yeah at this time i am tired to count since this board is a waste of time since someone like you just writes and the ones who taken the decision don't write at all ) say the red boosters will get an unfair advantage, more then they allready have now, and will lead to people leaving why can't we find a solution with all
10 minds think better then 1 but i guess that 1k minds can think a lot more better then 10
so now you can stop with the quotes that just pick up space and dont let the ones involved to even read

edit - PS i forgot mister know it all - "you want to perform better then that" ?
then do come to the game more often then the forum and see all the game comunity rather then taking decisions in our place - and yeah i can outperform you even when i sleep

edit 2 - sorry i had to reedit since i heared you were playing g3 ... sorry if you got turned down there but we do take noobs also but noobs who are willing to learn and be active and not ones who just read the forums and get no experience ...

tnx

I am actually very much hurt by this Edits......Actually nd now i will perform...nd yes when u don't know somehting nd go on reapeating the same thing on that makes no sense bt if u read nd then go then u do better....since u have hurt me..so i think i need to prove u wrong... :oops:

rcvs · **Posted:** Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:46 am

My opinion is that the reward for rank 1 alliance will remain the same and the tokens for rank2 and rank3 will diminish.

rank 1 the same reward
rank 2 will get around 200-300 tokens
rank 3 will get around 100-200 tokens

In this situation, the gap in reward for the rank 1 will be great compared to 2nd and 3rd place. This will motivate others to compete and maybe diminish your so called battle hugs.

Completely removing the rewards for rank 2 and 3 might completely make many players unmotivated so by giving some rewards even though it is reduced can still give others a push to keep on playing.

Dessyboy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:13 am

rcvs wrote:

My opinion is that the reward for rank 1 alliance will remain the same and the tokens for rank2 and rank3 will diminish.

rank 1 the same reward
rank 2 will get around 200-300 tokens
rank 3 will get around 100-200 tokens

In this situation, the gap in reward for the rank 1 will be great compared to 2nd and 3rd place. This will motivate others to compete and maybe diminish your so called battle hugs.

Completely removing the rewards for rank 2 and 3 might completely make many players unmotivated so by giving some rewards even though it is reduced can still give others a push to keep on playing.

Even then 200-300 tokens is still enough for 3 blue worker boosts, which is 6 power. Which can sway a lot of things (even after cool down). I think that its more than a push to keep players playing. I think its a great incentive to get first. Offering any blue token reward for 2nd and 3rd will make it so people will still settle. Look at any world and tell me, think that #1 rank alliance will have a sub come next era?

Charlesmohapatra · **Joined:** Thu May 02, 2013 12:04 am **Posts:** 280

Guys since this is being suggested ....Why not decrease the awards in Solo era's....Here i mean that as now in E5 solo 1-30 players get Tokens..this can be decreased to 25.......or it can same as 30 bt tokens can be reduced for 20-30 from 500 to 250...Jus a thought....

(I jus blindly suggested this idea)

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ND 3Z PLZ dont't open my mouth bro...i know ur intentions very well.....nd why u don't want this system to be Updated.

ND yes u said ur an old player.....if i go by this account details of urs u joined BD on 2011....bt i had joined BD earlier in FB bt deleted m FB account so BD also got deleted with it..nd Age doesnot matter..it matter how fast u learn in a short span of time......

NaveedNiazi · **Joined:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:42 am **Posts:** 737

atleast 1 wise move :lol:

thechessshark13 · **Joined:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:02 pm **Posts:** 595

Honestly, I think going from 1.5k blues to 0 right out of the bat isn't the best way to go. We could've tried an intermediate step first, in which we could just drastically reduce the rewards; say rank 2 gets 500 blues and rank 3 gets 100 blues. It's certainly not as enticing before, and they could be reduced further, to say 100 blues for rank 2 and 50 blues for rank 3. Something like this would be prefferable to no rewards, and would still keep higher meaning to ranks 2 and 3 than ranks 4 and below, as well as giving a reward, albeit small, to those that strive to at least be second best. There's also absolutely no reason now for an alliance to preserve their units if they know (or believe they know) that they will not attain rank 1, which would make battle huggs actually worse with even more alliances willing to simply suicide into others.

No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!