We always have nothing to lose to be able to improve without the extensive use of blue tokens, patience and perseverance are the keys to success in a game like BattleDawn, not tokens at all and I swear it is true! I became the player I am today by dedication and love of the game, I had to forget that there was something called a boost button so I can make an effort to learn, never give up, and most importantly, to excel and to surpass myself.

Everyone could do this if they want to but I probably think you fellow battledawners are a little intimidated by the no reward for the second and third alliance idea. This does not matter, it will go, and we will all as better as we can try to get used to this new idea because I still believe that the developer do their best not only to fix the functions of the game but to it back its principal purposes: War, Allies, Treason and Glory. Finally, as a non booster, I totally encourage the idea to be implanted and I won't even care about the tokens because I am that kind of players who play just for the sake and love of battledawn to finish top 2 or 3 for honor and pride and it is more important and valuable to me than tokens.

Back on OC there was no tokens.. there was metal oil and E for the winners of the era.. so stop the B********* this will make the game more fun and harder get over ur self.. they made the rules now deal with them or dont even play gosh.. uk how many people left when we went to NC? a lot of good faces now now rank 1 should only be getting stuff now. thank you admins and love you now make me admin so i can bannd all the noobs.

After seeing some of the arguments after a certain period of time from previously posting before, I would say that I can better see what the admins would want from this new rule that I hadn't initially seen before. I have played for a long time, but not as long as others, who have been here since the beginning, and definitely not as long as the admins. As a player, I understand that changes need to be made to a game when its gameplay has altered from the conventional goal. This rule, like I said, will bring in changes that really, without a doubt, benefit the community as a whole. It's just that, from my own experiences, with boosters, during many eras were I intended to compete seriously, is what made the game less and less appealing to me. Don't get me wrong, BD has been one of my commitments that I choose to keep up with, as it really is fun to me. It's just that I fear that these changes could bring consequences that may result in an even worse condition that this game has been going through.

The admins will stick with decision. I want them to. Why? Because, well, of all the predictions that have been made in this thread, they are useless to even address when considering the fact that they are not even affecting us yet. I honestly made one of those blank predictions, and like everyone else should, I plan on seeing what this decision will bring. It could bring good things, it could bring bad things, no one knows, like Seth said, we are not psychics.

I care for this game, like many of the people in this thread have displayed. The admins made their decision, and it can always be changed, or like other people have said, allow the introduction of new changes that could balance out the negatives. But we just have to wait. Wait and see what will happen from this decision. If the admins know what they are doing, then I trust them to do the right thing to better us as a whole.

Ok, I'm going to argue using my previous M2 era I just had recently. I played with zero intention of trying. I was going to sit back, relax, watch, and build up until the day I felt like trolling would be fun. Instead, I was convinced to play with a team. Eventually, as any alliance does, we went to war and when this happened, i chipped in when i was online to help. I found that a good amount of this team was fairly active and willing to put in some effort and so, I started to do the same. Somehow, I ended up the leader of this team instead. MY OWN MINDSET was that we could aim for 3rd and hope to get some blues (NOT that we should go for 1st). Now I knew 2nd place was being held for a team that helped out the rank 1 team, so I didn't bother trying to go for 2nd either.

Funny thing is, I watched 4 members of the rank 2 alliance go after the rank 23 alliance AND LOSE THEIR ENTIRE ARMIES. That team STILL got 2nd place. I watched as the leader of the rank 2 alliance lost ALL of his crystals to a single troller in the era. But they still got 2nd place. Why? Because of this battlehug mentality. In absolutely no way did that team deserve 2nd place. They did indeed attend a big war and did some work, but after that, they stopped caring and obviously, barely logged in anymore.

The team that ended in 3rd place was hardly involved in any wars. It seemed like they just built up all era, taking out the little guys.

My team on the other hand, ended in 4th place after losing war at the beginning of the era, relocating, rebuilding, taking out the rank 12 team, then the rank 11, then went after the rank 3 team who ended off the alliance ranking charts, and then went after rank 5 after this and unfortunately, due to battlehugs, we lost the chance to finish them off.

My rank 4 alliance did a tremendous amount of warring throughout the entire round, literally started from the bottom (now we're here!) and rose up the ranks within the last 700 ticks of the era. I personally had more kills than some of the top 10 individuals of the era (I checked). I ended the era killing nearly 10k units.

My point in this long story? The rank 4 alliance (heck even ranks 5-10 too) did a lot more throughout the entire era and STILL got nothing from it. 2nd place was LITERALLY being held for another alliance by rank 1. 2 other alliances allied with rank 1 were very likely to get 3rd place and hardly warred much, but they had significant advantage by riding the coat tails of rank 1. I can't say I wasn't also allied with rank 1, and truthfully, I also gave up all incentive to go after them, because ranks 2-5 (when we were ranked 8) were all allied with rank 1.

So you say that taking away rank 2 and 3 will HURT BD? I think BD is already hurting. Sometimes it is the case that rank 2 DESERVES to be rank 2. But most of the time, it's this BS that an allied team of rank 1 can just enjoy the ride, be active for a few days, then inactive for a few, and do maybe 1 major war and end with a reward.

I highly doubt ranks 2-5 would have stuck with rank 1 that era if it were not for blue tokens being available. I clearly remember ranks 3-6 all aiming for rank 3, but not willing to attack each other. Just sit and build all era and hope they built more.

That is not the kind of Battledawn I want to play. Especially not the kind I want to see get rewarded. I still had fun playing, even without getting any reward. My team and I had an absolute blast warring the other alliances throughout the round. The game should be about the enjoyment, not the payback at the end. The payback to you should be a memorable era. If you did nothing to make it memorable, then why are you even playing?!

I don't understand why people are complaining about this. Settling is the worst thing that has happened to this game sense subs. MAYBE even before subs. People need to stop complaining. This is going to help the game more than it will hurt it. If something actually hurts the game we'd know immediately. Maybe instead of making Skype chats and forum posts and trying to make petitions about getting 2nd and 3rd place tokens implemented back in.

Maybe you should play seriously and try to win. You don't need reds to win, you need an active team and having fun. Look what Tom did by being active and having an active team? 100k alliance score. Look at Milan, he won a lot more than just CE. Korupt, Apollo and more have won just by being active...

Maybe instead of being lazy and letting teams like RoFL and CME and HORD win worlds over and over again and having to have Admins use HORD as a competition. Prove to them that 2nd and 3rd are worthy of tokens...

dont think it will change anything

Come on, at least put some blue tokens for those alliance who held the relic. I completely disagree that you put it to rank 1 so that the blue tokens shall be reduced. You guys know it don't work because the rank 1 - 3 alliance always play together and never attack each other. So if this don't happen, better put it back to normal. Plus, what will you get from it? It is still the same no matter what. The look that I see it is that you guys need a more money users so that your money will increase. This ain't fair! You should not force a PLAYER to buy a token -_-

No one is forcing you to buy tokens, heck no ones even asking you to settle for second and third. And also that system could easily be abused by alliances. For example, say my team is holding one relic, and someone asks to hold it next so they could get blues. And they could do it over and over again. Asking for that is asking for more problems. And it wont work.

The problem is too many players like you have this mindset that ranks 1-3 are the only teams that ever go onto those worlds that play. And that they go into that world with predetermined ranks and everything else (I know this is true in some very serious cases, but I've never actually seen it work) What about the other 50+ alliances that place and collaborate on those worlds? Why not try to turn one of their subs (gag) against them. Their is literally hundreds of things you can do to turn the odds in your favor.



Why bring money into this? Money is nothing. In this game all money is good for is purchasing reds. Not that its a bad thing but I feel like it makes people more complacent then anything. Thinking that if they lose their armies that they can just boost them back. Players like me? Who only have time and experience on their hands. Who needs boosting when you have an active and experienced team? Sure we may lose a couple hundred battles in the process of trying to win, but who wants to see the same team win over and over again (RoFL).

Yes players who boost do contribute to the servers which in turn makes it so Tacticsoft can do more things with this game and BDSM. And yes this is fair, its trying to add competitiveness back into the game.

Things will eventually change the way the game is played for a little while. And probably people will find a different way to abuse this new change that has been implemented. Seeing as I stated previously, I've personally been invited to several Skype chats about this, and I've left every single one of them. BECAUSE, its not our decision. And two if the admins wanted to know what I thought they have more than one way to contact me. I talked to someone about this, and well they simply stated this this would be a band-aid. When will we stop covering BD with band-aids and finally clean out these festering wounds. Because band-aids only work for so long, eventually we'll have to clean these festering wounds. Especially before they become too infected. But that's just my opinion.

Side note. If you felt that I was bashing someone or some group of people I'm sorry, but keep the conversation civil and well, respectful.

Giving blue's to a relic holding alliance regardless of their placement is even worse than 2nd and 3rd getting tokens via battlehugs. Now, an alliance ranked ANYTHING can get tokens and rank 1 can choose exactly who to give it to. This would create an even worse battlehugs situation and even more abuse.

And as for rank 1-3 always working together, that is due to the current circumstance of ranks 1-3 getting tokens. Don't you think it's odd that alliances often come in with 1 or 2 allies that'll help them no matter what? That's BECAUSE we REWARD mediocrity by giving 2nd and 3rd place rewards. Take that away and we will no longer see ranks 1-3 working together, because now, there is NO REWARD for helping out rank 1.

Now, there is still a possibility of players trying do a "you help us win this era, we'll help you win the next" mentality, but only time will tell if players will continue down the battlehugs road.

And in no way is this FORCING you to buy tokens. If anything, this simply forces you to put in an effort to actually win instead of saying "I'll just settle for 2nd or 3rd place so I get blues". The simple fact of the matter is, this game requires activity and coordination.

If you can't muster these things up, then why do you think you deserve a win? Or a reward for that matter? Saying "I don't have the time" means that the other person put in more effort and shouldn't he be rewarded for that anyways? Yes, red tokens help, but an inactive booster will still lose against an active non-boosting alliance. If you are facing an active boosting alliance, then yes, it will be VERY difficult to take them down. And it should be. THEY PAY REAL MONEY!! If you were paying, wouldn't you hope that it gave you an edge? If I offered you reds right now, are you telling me you would DENY taking them? No. You would want to have the edge on the battlefield from having them, wouldn't you? They have the ability to do so, if you don't have access to a credit card, or don't have enough money, then I am sorry for your situation, but that's life for you. Life's not fair. You get what you get and the best way to change that is to change your circumstance on your own. Don't have money? Go get a job. Save up and buy a prepaid card at a grocery store or gas station. Don't feel like getting a job? Tough. That's your problem. Parent's won't let you get a job? Then you should have plenty of time to be active on BD.

I have passed up on NUMEROUS fun activities in real life for Battledawn throughout my years of playing. Sacrifice is required for glory and reward. If you aren't willing to sacrifice something, then don't be sad if you get nothing out of it.


And with my rant being done now, I will say again. HELP THE BD COMMUNITY IF YOU WANT BLUE TOKENS!!! We reward your service to BD! Join the Tribune!! We offer 500-1500 blue tokens PER ARTICLE (dependent upon length and effort for article) that is placed in the Tribune. I would LOVE for it to be the case that I have to CHOOSE which articles go into the Tribune every month rather than scrambling to get enough. Msg me on skype: , if you are interested.

ITS VERY SIMPLE TO SAY TAT HAVING AN EXPIRIENCED & ACTIVE TEAM WITHOUT BOOSTING WILLL LEAD TO U WIN....
LOL THIS IS THE JOKE OF CENTURY

WELL MALICE & OTHER GUYS WHO THINKS IT IS POSSIBLE, I'M SURE U GUYS URSELF HAVENT TRIED TAT YET.

Take ur current era Malice, u have boosted alot ur in top 10 but ur whole alliance members have rank like 120 & 143 & 60
what's this now?

Well i'll give u guys a example then u relate it to BD
Suppose there is a poor family with 3 members mother , father, & child. Father is the only working head of the family & boy studies in 5th grade.

One day the father met with an accident & now he is hospitalized. Doctors say it will take 4-5 months for his to get well & be back to work.

Now for medicines, operations , other basic facalities for them FROM WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME? DAD HIS IN HOSPITAL HE CANT EARN. They might take a loan from bank BUT THERE IS NO LOAN SYSTEM IN BATTLEDAWN.If u remove tokens for 3rd & 2nd its same like the father's case.

Like the way their father needs money,We need blue tokens to run our alliances..

Hope u guys getting my point.