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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:03 pm 
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sparta23 wrote:
How come some worlds can do the rank 1 only and other worlds do the normal way? See which one people prefer and let the people that play the game decide which worlds are better

I've played both, and one with a battle hug when I got 1st, and one with 1st rank reward only when I got killed without even finished top 10.

I say the latter is better.

and lots of OC players here agree that the competition in OC, which is basically 1st rank reward only, is more preferred than now.

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:04 pm 
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ezbolah wrote:
ok malice then how can you count things if i play 5 diffrent worlds for example and in 1 world i capture all my mates from the other 4 worlds and they are verry experienced players, they have fleets but they dont fight me, they login but they dont rebel and also i get to capture all those beautiful cristals when they show up ?!
how can you stop that when we all really know that is colony farming at it's best but because of the talks that dont take place in the game they cant be proven ?!
also about the experience farming i wrote i had a skype conversation where the guy who was used for that admited in front of 30 others what he was doing
give me your point on how you can stop that from happening
we get spamed in g3 for example on ops from players that are captured by our enemys :)
also they never rebel ... so yeah - they just hate us :)
and people should check how manny new players got promoted in galaxy even if they had 2-3 eras as a player
and Simmen i was baned together with the person who atacked me in the second wave after i had only 400 workers left and 0 resources... that guy i mentioned that should get baned for using a farm to get something did got a ban


You can't stop that. It is simply part of the game. Friends help friends. But that also makes you a bigger target for others to aim at. Now if you had those friends log on and help you xp farm, spam your enemies, jam your enemies, etc. then that is takings to an unfair advantage. But just as you are able to go after your friends for their conquer and crystals, anyone else can do so to. I have beaten people to their "friends" before. Wanna know why? Because I was more active.

And as for the skype conversation. All you had to do was send it to the admin. Telling the admin "he said it in skype" isn't enough.

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:06 pm 
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heres a thought , just do away with blues all together , you win for the sake of winning :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:44 pm 
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So consider a person who ran out of blues and is a non-booster.
What is he supposed to do.
He cant possibly beat rank 1 alliance without boosting at all.
Settling for rank 2-3 isnt gonna help his position anyway.
So, now he can quit the game in peace :lol:

Also consider a new player (non-booster).
How is he supposed to learn enough game to be able to go in rank 1 alliance.
He doesnt have blues.
He doesnt have skills.
He cant get blues cuz come on u can't expect a new player to end in rank 1 alliance.
No incentive to keep playing the game since he can see hes not getting anywhere.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:07 pm 
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This is a bold move but would it really help. The Huggers :) would just start doing it on multiple worlds.

This world you all support me and in the other world I will support you.

I think we should add another aspect - 1 player should be allowed to play only one world at a time :) .....


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:10 pm 
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id say just lower the token amounts :P i mean all this is gonna do is make it harder for nonboosters then it already is :P its a good idea but it will make the community smaller at this current moment in my opinion


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:14 pm 
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As a long-time player myself who has boosted with only blues, I'm not saying this is a TERRIBLE decision, this decision in many ways I do welcome, but it does have it repercussions.

To have only 1st rank alliances getting tokens from winning future eras is a good idea. Rewards those who put in the time needed to play efficiently, eliminates subs, and really puts a greater incentive into playing this game overall. I've seen this game change as the years have gone by, and people are right when they say that the initial rule of 1st - 3rd getting tokens made certain eras a waste of time, where alliances immediately submit to others for the sake of keeping tokens. I can see from the admin's perspectives that this will be a good idea, where in the future eras, we may possibly see some of the greatest eras we may see, with competition so great, I would imagine hundreds of players will add a JW to their title just to see the action.

But that's it, though honestly. These positive impacts from this new mandate will be good for probably just a handful of eras. I'm not going to guess when, however, as that is honestly an ignorant way of predicting the future, but on the short-term, these changes that the admins speak of will in fact come, no doubt about that, but they will be short-lived.

In the long-run...I believe enough people have said the reasoning behind this. Alliances who have won through boosting will have both red and blue tokens at their disposal to completely dominate eras. People such as myself will soon not be able to keep up with those who have thousands of blue tokens in the bank, and enough financial power to buy another victory. I am not saying that those who have dominated multiple eras are not skilled, these alliances are always seen with people who have put in more time into this game that would surprise just about anyone, but future eras will be terrible with these new mandates. Those who have put in years of non-red token commitment to this game won't find it as appealing when they will have to face an alliance with a definite win.

Obviously I've said too much, my apologies, I honestly don't contribute much to the forums these days. But to pretty much sum up what I have said, this mandate will have its ups and downs, no doubt about it. I really don't see anyone in this thread seeing this decision from the admin's eyes, or at least on the fence. The admins obviously had put a large amount of time into this decision, whereas I see many of you ranting on whatever first come's to mind. These admins implement changes to ADAPT to a changing game. This rule will help bring in a change we may all need. But I see what those who are against this decision are detailing.

Pretty much this, admins: Let the rule run its course, I don't mind it, probably hundreds won't either. You will see the pros of this decisions immediately. But you had better be ready to make changes when needed once the cons come into effect. People will leave this game more often than now if this rule is permanent. Once the domination starts, that's the cue to leave. I know I will.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:21 pm 
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IT would be hard as hell for non red boosters like us to win any era as every team going for rank 1 would prefer a booster than a non booster in the alliance and in that way most of the non red boosters (or new commers) won't have intrest in playing the game as they are getting no rewards untill they have a back account big enough to buy tokens it would become like a kingdom of red boosters and guys like us will not be able to get any thing any more !


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:26 pm 
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once the domination starts ?? lol uhhhhh were have you been ?

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:30 pm 
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I disagree, I think the top 3 should get tokens, because 100% of the time the rank 1 alliance has boosted so much its not even funny how much they boosted. for example fantasy 3 with rome at top spot, they must have boosted over $100 probilly much more than that. I think giving tokens to top 3 is fair because normally the rank 2 and 3 have earned there rank legitly without $100 of boosting.


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