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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:00 pm 
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The idea is very ground-breaking, changes the way players will think in the future, and red boosters can lose to non-boosters(very hard, but possible) but you still may have "dead eras" You will have 1 alliance way ahead and other alliances just watching and voting for different eras

I think decreasing 2nd and 3rd rewards and increasing 1st prize will help

-Just an idea


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:00 pm 
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I personally don't like it for my own reasons, but that's just me. Perhaps you should try it out on one world first rather than the entire game.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:00 pm 
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Yay 34 blues a day... I can play a serious era every 2.5 months with that! Thanks :)

yeah , welcome to our world buddy , guess your just gonna have to fight to be number 1 now , as it should be .

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:01 pm 
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I personally don't like it for my own reasons, but that's just me. Perhaps you should try it out on one world first rather than the entire game.


M2 current era. Still paused. Just starting ;)

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:02 pm 
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simmen wrote:
I see someone haven't been playing long because he'd know that
1. Doomsday prophesies have been here since the start of the game, none have been right so far!
2. That in the old client, there were no limits to how much you could buy, back then you could complain about unlimited resources, but now? No.. It's not unlimited, the cooldowns are there for a reason.

The gap can be filled with conquers, crystals, resource outposts and outposts.. but you will have to be good to do it.



srry to prove u wrong on this but ive been with bd for 6 year next month

im only able to attempt (not achieve, attempt) 1st clan rank once or twice a year through saving up many blue tokens with the achievement tokens and 3rd and 2nd rank tokens and voting over long long periods of time

bout a year ago on f3 i fought a single red boosting player with my recently won 3k blues i got from Toxc

i killed the booster and it cost me bout 500 of my tokens
the very next day he came back with an army of 5 full fleets of heavy units
i killed him again
this pattern repeated bout 8 times all before tick 100
he became the joke of that era because he kept losing even though he had the tokens

but then i lost because he wasnt falling for spy traps or missiles he dodged the missiles he had sp on everything and he boosted back his entire army once again to finish me off

u want to tell me how he didnt buy that victory? it was literally my 1 life vs his seemingly infinite lives

so plz do not dismiss my opinion as someone who does not know wat he is talking about

if need be i'll log into all 10+ of my past accounts and comment here if u want

and no to anyone who might try there is no rule against owning multiple accounts so long as i dont use them on the same maps at the same time, ive confirmed it with the admins multiple times and the most recent being admin tom and his response "its not against the rules but its not honorable" unfortunately this auction isnt built on honor


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:04 pm 
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Thank you everyone for providing your feedback. I know that your appreciation and passion for the game is your first motivation. At least I hope it is!

Good or bad, it helps us to see how everyone feels. Thanks again for taking the time!

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:07 pm 
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Simmen strangly enough the guy who helped with the exp farming was part of our team so i doubt he would brag about something that would get him baned
i dont have all his accounts but since he has turned into a lackey for a red booster i do have enough reasons to belive that the transaction was real and he did in fact give exp - i was baned in a world where i was watching for rushing 3 fleets and loosing 180 workers and then recalling my 5 units left from a second wave of atack together with the second atacker and that guy for getin experience farming and killing just armour got nothing
i play fair and all know this but if you just dont give the little guys a chance for a good fight then your hole reason for doing this is futile
i may not need to boost to get a win but when dealing with new members who are inexperienced the tokens you earn from ranks 2 and 3 can prove to get some aquality in the game


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:10 pm 
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ezbolah wrote:
i have reported in the past colony farming, op farming, even cristal and exp farming with even print screens - except the one who was the source of this geting baned nothing happened
the one who got the experience and resources never got baned since he was either the booster or in the boosting alliance
i only seen one time that the justice was made clear and involved even cristals beeing handed to the rightfull alliance
i never seen experience beeing striped from fleets or the one who cheated geting a ban
and yeah i am a good and experienced player but i play with and for my friends
dont need to get into a boosting alliance - dont need that
i prefer people who have the head over the shoulders boosters or not and are not driven by greed or the desire to pay or manipulate others
if that is my foult then i will deal with it - better to watch then to fight an era by loosing time and effort to just let others get more tools to win
also check please how manny times i left wining alliances for others to gain something - that is the spirit of the game - sharing and having fun



I seriously doubt you had your "definite proof" for a player to be banned. That proof would have to be absolutely condemning for them to get banned. Near perfect coordination, same IP address, a confession, etc. If it's for farming, the admin's will usually give a warning before banning. How do I know this? Because I get players banned all the time for doing these things. And I get denied all the time for submitting as well. If I think it's a multi or a farm, then I'll report it and TRUST the admin's judgement. He will look to see if it's a multi with IP address checks. After that, there is simply no way of condemning without better proof.

As for the boosters never getting caught, no it's quite the opposite. Boosters often don't cheat! Want to know why? BECAUSE THEY ARE SPENDING REAL LIFE MONEY ON THE GAME! Why would they cheat? Getting banned after spending $20, $50, $100, some even go as far as in the $1000's. Who would risk getting caught and wasting their money away?

abeyant wrote:
Yay 34 blues a day... I can play a serious era every 2.5 months with that! Thanks :)


You do realize that 2.5 months is about how long the usual 1 tick era usually takes... right? Just barely longer. So your argument seems silly to me. You're not willing to wait and vote an extra half month for free blues, BUT you'd be willing to "work hard" for 2nd or 3rd rank alliance? And sure, you could do a faster tick speed for quicker reward, but that requires MORE activity to play on. And it would still be about 2 months (instead of 2.5, oh my).

In a 1 tick per hour world
672 ticks = 1 month
1344 ticks = 2 months
2016 = 3 months
2688 = 4 months

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:11 pm 
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simmen wrote:
I see someone haven't been playing long because he'd know that
1. Doomsday prophesies have been here since the start of the game, none have been right so far!
2. That in the old client, there were no limits to how much you could buy, back then you could complain about unlimited resources, but now? No.. It's not unlimited, the cooldowns are there for a reason.

The gap can be filled with conquers, crystals, resource outposts and outposts.. but you will have to be good to do it.



srry to prove u wrong on this but ive been with bd for 6 year next month

im only able to attempt (not achieve, attempt) 1st clan rank once or twice a year through saving up many blue tokens with the achievement tokens and 3rd and 2nd rank tokens and voting over long long periods of time

bout a year ago on f3 i fought a single red boosting player with my recently won 3k blues i got from Toxc

i killed the booster and it cost me bout 500 of my tokens
the very next day he came back with an army of 5 full fleets of heavy units
i killed him again
this pattern repeated bout 8 times all before tick 100
he became the joke of that era because he kept losing even though he had the tokens

but then i lost because he wasnt falling for spy traps or missiles he dodged the missiles he had sp on everything and he boosted back his entire army once again to finish me off

u want to tell me how he didnt buy that victory? it was literally my 1 life vs his seemingly infinite lives

so plz do not dismiss my opinion as someone who does not know wat he is talking about

if need be i'll log into all 10+ of my past accounts and comment here if u want

and no to anyone who might try there is no rule against owning multiple accounts so long as i dont use them on the same maps at the same time, ive confirmed it with the admins multiple times and the most recent being admin tom and his response "its not against the rules but its not honorable" unfortunately this auction isnt built on honor


If you have been here for 6 years, then you know how in OC there were no prizes for winning, in addition to limitless supporting.

And yes, he won trough buying, and you hitting him in a situatin that was bad for you, not coordinating with your team. Had you conquered him quickly, it would have been over fairly quickly.

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:13 pm 
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ezbolah wrote:
i may not need to boost to get a win but when dealing with new members who are inexperienced the tokens you earn from ranks 2 and 3 can prove to get some aquality in the game


What lucky inexperianced nooob is even gonna get that lucky to be in a top 3 team ? its too competitve for them really , all your top 3 teams at least are pretty good players , boosters or not , these nubs get weeded out and sent sub alliance's if the team wasnt already formed before the round started , seriously nub's will never see 1st 2nd 3rd anyways , not the majority of them anyways , i know there are SOME exceptions to the rule but its rare .

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