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simmen · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:48 pm

ezbolah wrote:

ok here is a thought

until now i have seen a lot of red boosters who were kind of ignored when braking the rules
if you take away the advantage a smart person with smaller pockets from geting blues and add the allready insane advantages red boosters allready gain from paying reds to other players for colony farming, op farming, experience farming ( and don't anyone tell me this ain't happening ) whithout geting baned then why would simple players try to play when they get nothing to compete with ?

Proof?
I'm assuming you have some

ezbolah wrote:

i never had more then one username - i think that using more usernames with the intent to earn more blues the easy way isn't in the spirit of the game
also don't think that large alliances are made this way - you all look at alliances that win and have 5 subs as the enemy of this game but have you ever thought of seeing the activity of the so called subs ?
everyone in the game is free to take whatever name they want if it is friendly sub or enemy ... but not all play actively
also there are allready sides and alliances merging over and over again so every big alliance has his own problems - like spys and dead weights
i for one play in a big family and i can tell you to win an era i have to be active about 18 hours a day and have my cell phone open 24/7
you think we are not fighting enough allready ?

If you can get on 24/7, you should have no problem getting into a rank 1 alliance as long as you are good at the game. So I stugle to see how you'd have a problem with this?

ezbolah wrote:

give more power to the booster and you will have noone playing at all
i have seen more cheating from the big pockets then ever because they allready get a step in front - better to play fair if you wanna see a competition and make it really fair for all
allready bd world has changed with the introduction of the stupid medals - everyone wants one and is ready to even kill someone in real life to get one so from greedyness why would you guys want to turn this game to a bought game i can't think of
remember the boosters will only pay reds to get into the competition when even the weak one has a chance by geting the blues - if you give blues just to red boosters you will have nothing left

abeyant · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:48 pm

If you want to support the petition, here is the link.

https://www.change.org/petitions/battledawn-administrators-return-rewards-to-2nd-and-3rd-place-alliances#share

simmen · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:51 pm

malicewolf wrote:

simmen wrote:

malicewolf wrote:

Come now simsy, didn't you read my whole argument?

I still agree with rank 1 alliance only gets rewarded. I'm saying, we should still give incentive for those who can't reach rank 1, to continue striving for something. I was suggesting that we reward individuals for their hard work throughout the round by increasing the individual player's who get rewarded to the top 25 (or whatever we feel is fair). Since the alliance reward seems to be so low, the extra incentive through the individual rank I feel will make up for this. Hell, now that I think about it, why not split it by every 5 ranks, so then there is inner strife in a single alliance to try being a higher individual ranking.
1-5: 1000 blues
6-10: 750 blues (now ranks 4-7 within 1 alliance will most likely be fighting each other to get a higher individual rank).
11-20: 500 blues
20:25: 250 blues

Sorry, trying to answer 500 messages here! (Also, get on skype!)

And I kinda agree that there should be some other sources for blue tokens to fill the hole. But, I don't think those ways should be settling for a rank, that be alliance rank or personal rank.

Oh yea, you haven't played with me in a bit lol. I can't access skype at work. No skype on my work computer and can't download it. And skype KILLS my data on my phone, so I only hop on when necessary.

As for settling, I don't think rewarding individual ranking players up to rank 25 is settling at all. It means you most likely have a spread of individuals between alliance ranks 1-5 still getting a reward for their activity during the era. Hence, dealing with everyone's current complaints about non-boosters getting any reward. If they earn it, then they earn it. It's pretty hard to BS your way into the top 25 I would say. And even if you do, the reward payout isn't so huge either. You would need to get into the top 25 in a few eras to gain enough blues to have a "serious era" according to the non-boosters here.

Ok, just get back to me when you can

And wouldn't you say that it would be basically the same people as from the top 3 alliances in the top ranks, as the ranks of the single players are what makes up the allaince rank?

If not exactly, it will be ALMOST identical, and not really change anything. But, I am open to suggestiosn to introduce more blue tokens into the game.

Seth wrote:

I understand your concern. I see your side, but I dont think anyone here is pausing to see things from our perspective.

While you would think that when we expanded rewards, it would help the non,paying players. When in fact, all it has done was serve to unite more teams of paying players to shut out more non paying players.

Please have just a little faith that we are more than money grubbing trolls out to raid your wallet. This is a decision that was a long time coming. It comes from contemplating the changes in the game that have occured since the YEARS that we implimented them.

Very well said Seth ^^
The funny thing is, most of the rank 2 and 3 alliances are compromised of a good amount of boosters as well. Usually, only being a small amount of non-boosters gaining any rewards as it currently is.

RunnerChase · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:53 pm

the way i see it , these top guys are promising 2nd 3rd place to their pal's that are taking it easy , then get half the world on their side , either way its more blues for the boosters , yeah its a good call because no noob or average player is ever gonna get 1st 2nd or 3rd place anyways and these guys that are always in the top 5 will become more competitve for the blues and stop being so buddy buddy with each other , lets face it , money is money and if you win a round thats less red's you have to buy , so yeah after a few rounds i expect these huge familys to start falling apart *hopefully *

malicewolf · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:02 pm **Posts:** 1622

And for all you complaining about not being able to get blues, there are a multitude of ways to gain them. Heck, come and write for the Tribune staff! If you ACTUALLY do work within it, you'll be rewarded based on your efforts. I'd be more than happy to have some more writers on board. (feel free to contact me on skype: ).

Other than that; vote, take surveys, INVITE FRIENDS TO PLAY AND STAY. Heck, if you just download the BD toolbar, you can get an extra 10 blues a day. These all get you rewards. If you're too LAZY to do these simple things, I have a feeling you NEVER deserved the blues from rank 2 or 3 alliance anyways. Commitment and activity deserve rewards. Laziness does not.

@Sims - Not necessarily. I see many in the rank 4 and 5 alliances that make it to the top 25. Those weaker members in alliance 2 and 3 are the one's that won't be rewarded. Those are usually the one's that try to ride off the coat tails of the stronger ones for blues. But i'm more than happy for other ideas as well

ezbolah · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:22 am **Posts:** 65

i have reported in the past colony farming, op farming, even cristal and exp farming with even print screens - except the one who was the source of this geting baned nothing happened
the one who got the experience and resources never got baned since he was either the booster or in the boosting alliance
i only seen one time that the justice was made clear and involved even cristals beeing handed to the rightfull alliance
i never seen experience beeing striped from fleets or the one who cheated geting a ban
and yeah i am a good and experienced player but i play with and for my friends
dont need to get into a boosting alliance - dont need that
i prefer people who have the head over the shoulders boosters or not and are not driven by greed or the desire to pay or manipulate others
if that is my foult then i will deal with it - better to watch then to fight an era by loosing time and effort to just let others get more tools to win
also check please how manny times i left wining alliances for others to gain something - that is the spirit of the game - sharing and having fun

RunnerChase · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Exactly why only the winner of a round should be rewarded , there arent 3 teams that win an erra , its just 1 , why reward ppl for comming in 2nd 3rd ?

abeyant · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Yay 34 blues a day... I can play a serious era every 2.5 months with that! Thanks

simmen · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

ezbolah wrote:

i have reported in the past colony farming, op farming, even cristal and exp farming with even print screens - except the one who was the source of this geting baned nothing happened
the one who got the experience and resources never got baned since he was either the booster or in the boosting alliance
i only seen one time that the justice was made clear and involved even cristals beeing handed to the rightfull alliance
i never seen experience beeing striped from fleets or the one who cheated geting a ban
and yeah i am a good and experienced player but i play with and for my friends
dont need to get into a boosting alliance - dont need that
i prefer people who have the head over the shoulders boosters or not and are not driven by greed or the desire to pay or manipulate others
if that is my foult then i will deal with it - better to watch then to fight an era by loosing time and effort to just let others get more tools to win
also check please how manny times i left wining alliances for others to gain something - that is the spirit of the game - sharing and having fun

I know what you're getting at, and you all claimed that experience were bought for red tokens, but trust me, I looked at all accounts and world I could find, no red token transaction there what so ever. Don't trust everythign you read on the internet.

Seth · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:59 pm

You can make substantially more than that writing for the tribune. Show some love for the community!

Perhaps we can hold more contests and this will drum up more support for the community and forum. We will explore other avenues to the same ends while still putting the emphasis on winning.

No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!