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Niko1313
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:04 am |
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I believe that the matchmaking should be based not purely on ladder points and/or mech. level, but also take into account the mech. build stats - such as energy/heat capacity, HP and total damage that can be dealt in a single turn - 2 weapon hits (potential) + drone damage, in order to maintain balance and fairness to all players - both new and established.
Also, it seems that there is no agreement or a good solution to which player would start the match first, so perhaps a coin toss might be applicable here.
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Andy
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:28 am |
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Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:08 pm Posts: 1930 Location: England Gender: male
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Niko1313 wrote: Also, it seems that there is no agreement or a good solution to which player would start the match first, so perhaps a coin toss might be applicable here. I like this idea quite a lot 
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MrOneTwoo
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:28 am |
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Niko1313 wrote: I believe that the matchmaking should be based not purely on ladder points and/or mech. level, but also take into account the mech. build stats - such as energy/heat capacity, HP and total damage that can be dealt in a single turn - 2 weapon hits (potential) + drone damage, in order to maintain balance and fairness to all players - both new and established.
Also, it seems that there is no agreement or a good solution to which player would start the match first, so perhaps a coin toss might be applicable here. Good idea. The weapon damage like this: you add all your weapons damage and after that you divide with the number of the weapons and multiplied by two? But the HP and energy/heat capacity idea I think its wrong. Because a lot of player want high HP and good capacities, but they mechs will be weak because they dont have any resistance. You can not be reconciled the high HP and the resistance.(which is stronger) There is no apropriate formula for that I think. The coin toss: Looks good when your opponents matchmaking level is +/- 2, but when the difference is higher than two I think the lower level player should start.
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DanteTwo
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:34 pm |
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watch me vs tock, and tell me that there is any way this match could have been fair. Ilona this is an example of 23 being put against a 30. it just happened today. I could have spent 9 grand on this match and still lost. At this level his weapons are so much more powerfull, I would be dead before the kits even get used! So Andy don't tell me its not a big problem, the reson u are only seeing a couple on my replays is they were not all looses, and thats probably all you are looking at. Here is the proof Ilona 7 LEVELS HIGHER! DANTE2VSTOCK
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Andy
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:07 pm |
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DanteTwo wrote: watch me vs tock, and tell me that there is any way this match could have been fair. Ilona this is an example of 23 being put against a 30. it just happened today. I could have spent 9 grand on this match and still lost. At this level his weapons are so much more powerfull, I would be dead before the kits even get used! So Andy don't tell me its not a big problem, the reson u are only seeing a couple on my replays is they were not all looses, and thats probably all you are looking at. Here is the proof Ilona 7 LEVELS HIGHER! DANTE2VSTOCK I agree that 7 levels may be too high. However, you're top 5 this week on the ranking board. It already seems easy enough for you, so why not add some challenge for you? If you're fighting 7 levels higher than you, then everyone else fighting at your level, or lower levels will be fighting players 7 levels higher than them if their weekly points reach yours. So you're at no disadvantage to them. If you're winning against level 30's then good!! It shows your mech is able to fight there, and you should be enjoying the competition. If you don't want to be fighting players 7 levels higher than you, play at level 30 where there no levels higher. If you weren't so far up in the leaderboard, I would have some more understanding for your concern. However you're complaining the game is too hard, when previously it looks like you were just happy killing noobs around your level which involves little difficulty at all. Enjoy the challenge 
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Lorinser021
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:38 pm |
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Niko1313 wrote: I believe that the matchmaking should be based not purely on ladder points and/or mech. level, but also take into account the mech. build stats - such as energy/heat capacity, HP and total damage that can be dealt in a single turn - 2 weapon hits (potential) + drone damage, in order to maintain balance and fairness to all players - both new and established.
Also, it seems that there is no agreement or a good solution to which player would start the match first, so perhaps a coin toss might be applicable here. I don't agree with the first part. that means i will always fight the same people and never new people or at-least people with the same kind of builds. (kinda like it is now, i see multiple names of people who i have never fought that are fighting at my lvl and on at the same time as me) I think that when you click on the fight button it should randomly select another person who is also looking for a fight. then it should be a coin toss on who gets to go first.
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DanteTwo
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:54 pm |
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and it happened again me vs brennbernd lv 30 
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DanteTwo
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:42 am |
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And ONCE AGAIN TODAY, i GOT PUT UP AGAINST CYBEROREL, THIS GUY FLAT OUT SAID TO ME DURING A BATTLE "YOU ARE WASTING YOUR KITS"  AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
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exu
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:12 pm |
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What about 8 levels diferent.
i am level 22 and figth whit level 30 i see other top player this week and they dont haved 8 levels diferents
CAIN VRS DEOXIS 22 vr 30
CAIN VRS FRAWATUET 22 vr 30
That the one i lose, i win a couple, but for they mistake. No way that beat a level 30.
i can take whit 22 a level 28...
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MrOneTwoo
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Post subject: Re: Matchmaking messed up now more than ever!!! Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:26 pm |
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exu wrote: What about 8 levels diferent.
i am level 22 and figth whit level 30 i see other top player this week and they dont haved 8 levels diferents
CAIN VRS DEOXIS 22 vr 30
CAIN VRS FRAWATUET 22 vr 30
That the one i lose, i win a couple, but for they mistake. No way that beat a level 30.
i can take whit 22 a level 28... My mech is level 18 and i had a level 26 opponent. So you are not the only one. I checked your replays and the cain vs Frawateut is level 30 vs level 30.
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