Seth please buy a large one (Popcorn) so we can share like Korupt said !
I really want to live the action on Earth 6

I would have added more alliance names but there was no space left, so affiliates was the only thing I could put. Perhaps I should have added a list of the alliances involved in the opening post, but it's a bit late now.

I'm getting pretty sick and tired of seeing SAGE whine about VND having allies and affiliates, and seeing VND whine about SAGE having allies and affiliates. The truth is, neither of you alliances could join a server and just play the hand you were dealt. Both of you have to make allies in advance and make sure you take every would-be competitive alliance and have them play for you in the promise that you will play for them some other time.

Accept the fact that this mentality is clearly garbage, and move on with the era already. You're both crying foul and it's stupid.

It was funny, I joined this era thinking: 'Oh wow! Finally a BD era where there will be 10 competitive alliance like the good 'ol days' Rude awakening. It isn't gonna happen. This is yet again another one of the typical 'neo-BD' eras, to where there are only 2 real competitive factions with 4 competitive alliances from the start, and now 2 competitive alliances and 2 gimped competitive alliance. Nevertheless the server has more alliances than normal, and yet only 2 factions can be made.



Pucker up, I'm going to lay down a huge reality check.

How long do you expect this little system to last? Eventually people are going to realize that there's no fun in the competition, because there's no end to the cycle, and it's plain garbage. This is the kind of system that breeds people getting top 3 medals, then asking me if you can relocate while jammed. It's hardly worth spending money and time just to watch idiots slam into each other committing mass Seppuku and acting like it's cool. I believe watching fish slap each other in mud is a much more enjoyable act atm, and costs virtually no money unless you buy the fish.

I was talking to Mother Rania and she told me not to criticize her system because it's clean fun and trusting one another. I'm glad I can't get my friends to suicide for me. It's not that they don't trust me or like me, it's that they share my thoughts that BD isn't fun playing unless you're going for rank 1. People offer me plenty of times to play for rank 2 and I refuse them. If you're fully competent as an ally, then you should be good enough to compete against me for Rank 1. If at the end you want to settle with a merger or a friendly fight, fine. I'm all for it.

How long until you realize what kind of chokehold this mentality is putting BD in? Not that I am, but I frequently hear people complaining, talking about quitting, and overall groaning on the forums about this mentality. Even people WITH this mentality groan about it. What kind of environment are we hosting for our community? A negative one? What good does that do? Do we all have to be self-loathing parasites that find enjoyment in settling for sub-par scores?

I wonder what would've happened if I told my parents that I got a B on a test because my friend wanted to be the only one with an A. I'm pretty sure my dad would whip out the belt, and I'll not go into the details as that is considered child abuse now.

In conclusion, you're both idiots.

Not quoting the big mssg but its REALITY CHECK

Kenny, here is a reality check for YOU:

1. VND has never whined about SAGE having allies or subs. Its infact the other way around. We acknowledge that we asked friends to help us win, but just because our friends are good players and win battles does not mean we have to be blamed for it as if we were the only ones to bring in allies.

2. The OC probably had some strategic elements in game mechanics that are not present today, but even in those times, teams like GML with huge sub empires, ganging up on others did exist. Having allies has always been a crucial part of BD so I dont see why this era has to be any different.

3. Granted, these days on most servers there are not too many wars, but this can be attributed to what I call as the "Return on investment" mentality. BD today has translated into a game where big bucks and big squads win you games. Combined with activity of course. Most of the strategic elements as far as I understand are practically non existent. So when someone spends 1000s of USD on an era, you wanna make sure you win. This did not exist in the old client, where people mostly did not have anything to lose by losing an era. Today, you lose a lot of money. This is THE most important reason why there are very less wars and such. Not that people dont wanna fight.

4. Saying that people "trust" you as an ally would be an overstatement. People dont. So you need a bit of perspective on this one:

a) You definitely write many words, say many words, but I have hardly seen anything spectacular to back that up - both now and in the past.

b) Generally the ones that I have talked to, do not trust you so am not sure they would suicide for you, nor are you in a position to offer them rank 2 or whatever.

c) Its bad strategy not to have any sort of diplomacy or allies. I know many in your alliance are crazy bastids, but being bad at diplomacy is simply not strategic given the fact that diplomacy is also a huge part of the game.

So here, I would advice you to calm down a bit about yourself and your so called "winning mentality". Your approach to the game is just as idiotic as you think ours is. In reality, we have simply adapted to the game, the way it is played today.

And that right there, is one of the main problems with the game today. It is becoming pay to win, as people are too scared to fight incase they lose their armies (= money) that they've invested into the game, so are happy to limp into 2nd/3rd place. And in my opinion, it is ruining the game.

I had high hopes of the Championship Era being different than all the NC era's I've played. I had dreams of massive 3/4 way wars, 4 or 5 alliances/groups fighting it out for the win, instead its just turned into 2 sides fighting eachother, with one alliance on either side ready to take the accolades after the dust settles, as no other alliance will dare go against the "two" sides.

But then again, what would I know, I'm just some washed up old timer?

As I posted a topic that addresses some of the concerns in here as well, I figured I'd post the link here.

viewtopic.php?f=112&t=24028

Like I said in there, I do believe there are good reasons that people are fighting less wars. There is much less income nowadays, and the income that you do get is from boosts. When you get 500 metal per tick from taxation and some 200 from bonuses plus some from workers and you get 800 metal per tick, you are much less hesitant to lose armor since you can actually rebuild it. Nowadays income is low, there are not many conquers and the conquer income has been more than halved. There are less crystals on worlds as well, so less income from that too (though the CE is an exception crystal-wise crystals).

Plus, there are less newbies joining so less outposts to take for income as well.. Less income from individual conquers, less conquers in general, less income from bonuses and less income from razing.. It is just hard to get a good income going nowadays. So get into wars too much and you kill yourself, pretty much.

The current BD mechanics simply don't encourage war.

Regardless of my opinions of any of your other posts, I agree almost entirely with this tbh.

Whatever we all know the truth behind VND..

This CE is complete waste except for 1 alliance who fought hard.. CBop..

So once again congrats to VND for winning 1st CE.. it would have been extended longer had Anthonym and Greeny not made the stupid plan to attack without any plan..

That is wronging us, to be honest. CBop has had a few ticks without war, we as VND have literally gone from war to war.