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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:37 am 
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that's the kind of mentality that needs to be gone. oh hey they're going to bring help or they're sure to so we should too.


Will it?

Have been seeing the same thing over and over and done by "pro " players itself.

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:03 am 
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You brought (or recruited) a large part of the active BD community here to make sure you win this era. It's pathetic that so many players prefer to do your work here instead of going for the win themselves or at least playing as independent alliances. I know things been going similar on other servers recently but I'm sure this kind of abuse makes BD less and less attractive for players looking for a competitive game. That's my last comment on this topic though, I'm actually surprised you guys keep defending yourselves in that matter. Bad conscience? After all some of the VND players have been rather loud to criticize others for similar behavior lately.


We had to recruit. Initially, we planned to have only 1 or 2 subs. But we heard GML was coming, so despite a lot of the members protesting, we had to bring people. So like I said, we have a situation and we have to deal with it.

Secondly, incase you didn't read, no one does the work for us, we do it ourselves. I believe results speak for themselves, and you can see that VND has killed a lot of units. Check each player's statistic and that is testament to what VND has done till now.

We don't defend ourselves here. We just try to explain things for what they are because unfortunately people don't really seem to see facts for what they are:

a) Every alliance has lots of subs/brother alliances, so we are no exception here
b) The very fact that every alliance has subs/brother alliances, forces us to have subs and brother alliances.
c) VND's subs and allies have killed a lot, but so have we. We havent sat back and let people do our work, and there is tons of proof in the form of BR's available for you.

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:21 am 
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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:00 am 
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ppl here dont get my point,

in the CBOP war, CBOP faced 2 alliances 1 after teh other, 1st HU for abt 80 ticks means 80 hrs of less or no sleep seeing their coordination, hu also no sleep, VND are enjoying at this time
then hu dies killing 30% of CBOP with them

a fresh 100%(no army loss) vnd takes on a tired CBOP which has lost 1/3rd of its army, territory etc: RESULT : vnd takes the credit of killing them, truth: wat they did was marched staight 2 CBOP hive (way cleared by HU) try and attack a colony, (cbop army scattered fighting hu), get trapped on return, they win no doubt y?(stated above), but they cant be called as winners*

if it had been CBOP vs VND we could hav easily told a winner


in the case of GML, lost, beer, haha, etc fought with them for abt 150 ticks
LOST killed units, haha pushed them bac,beer also helped(balanced effort)
GML slowly became tired cauz they were alone with 1 or 2 sub helping

here comes VND
well rested and rebuilt armr, etc,
march into SA, and kill a tired,half army GML

i think its not vnd who r the crediters its a combined alliance of top 150 of the top 200 players doing the work where many ppl clear the way, 10 ppl come finish the war and take all the credit

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:25 am 
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If its about credit, then VND obviously cant get all the credit.

A lot of the credit obviously goes to our allies and friends.

Overall the credit always goes to VND and allies. It would be the same for GML, SAGE or whoever else.

Thanks for stating the obvious, captain obvious. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:07 am 
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VND , come on , no need to explain the noobs why you deserve the win.
your stats and wars from TIK 1 are all ready prove you guys are the champions.
Lost proud to be your side kick, and our little help to your win is not compared to your team effort in this round.
long life VND.
and now a little movie of our war in LOST lol. damn i love that show.

Thanks for the memorys.

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:36 am 
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vishesh1999 wrote:
ppl here dont get my point,

in the CBOP war, CBOP faced 2 alliances 1 after teh other, 1st HU for abt 80 ticks means 80 hrs of less or no sleep seeing their coordination, hu also no sleep, VND are enjoying at this time
then hu dies killing 30% of CBOP with them


First of all.. We entered the CBop war around tick 30. Not tick 80. Second of all, when did HU die and take 30% of CBop with them? I believe that was far after we had killed CBop, they had simply rebuilt.

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a fresh 100%(no army loss) vnd takes on a tired CBOP which has lost 1/3rd of its army, territory etc: RESULT : vnd takes the credit of killing them, truth: wat they did was marched staight 2 CBOP hive (way cleared by HU) try and attack a colony, (cbop army scattered fighting hu), get trapped on return, they win no doubt y?(stated above), but they cant be called as winners*


They didn't lose 1/3rd of their army, never had any real territory except for a bit in Asia. Yes, HU helped a lot but I can guarantee you the more tired side was VND :lol: CBop's army wasn't scattered, they literally sent their full armies at us.

Vish, when you post something like this, at least get SOME of the facts right :lol:

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in the case of GML, lost, beer, haha, etc fought with them for abt 150 ticks
LOST killed units, haha pushed them bac,beer also helped(balanced effort)
GML slowly became tired cauz they were alone with 1 or 2 sub helping


Again, not close to 150 ticks. When we had not yet jumped in yet I would say the war was quite stagnant, one side advanced a bit and then another side advanced a bit. I was actually commenting on how remarkable it was that even without us our friends managed to keep "The great GML" back. When we stepped in, way less than 150 ticks after our allies started fighting them and after we were forced to do so by Vulnar attacking us, we had some small skirmishes and then killed a lot of army indeed. As for 1 or 2 active alliances, they had GML2 and GMLx there very active with full army + GMLa and GMLr.

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here comes VND
well rested and rebuilt armr, etc,
march into SA, and kill a tired,half army GML


Hahahaha. Well rested, no way. Rebuilt armor, no way. We went pretty much straight from CBop hive into South America. Also, 120 squads was not half their army at that point, sadly it was a tad less. Again, the only part you got right was that yes, we did march into SA :O

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i think its not vnd who r the crediters its a combined alliance of top 150 of the top 200 players doing the work where many ppl clear the way, 10 ppl come finish the war and take all the credit


I agree, it is not us that takes the credit. Without our friends, our "coalition", we would not have been able to take on GML's coalition, or SAGE's coalition. It's simply the law of numbers, we could win every battle and still lose the war then. We are blessed to have great and awesome allies that are not only very good at war, but that we can trust and that trust each other quite completely. Several alliances have abandoned their hive at times with another of our allies close to their hive with a lot of units, that's trust.

So in short, you didn't get much right :lol: But you did get the part right where we can't take all the credit, for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:54 am 
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yawn ill read the post soemtime and reply :D

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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:12 am 
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 Post subject: Re: SAGE, SoTF, I + affiliates vs VND, BEER, HaHa + affiliates
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:13 am 
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Would love to but on our side of the battlefield they keep running.

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