Yes, you are absolutely right, the GML trophy is lacking from my Trophy Case... I have a tie against you, but lost to points. I would like a rematch. Please remember, this is a game. I was very honored to play with you and GML on E2. It was a lot of fun. But it was not nearly as fun as the Epic Round we played prior to that one on E3.

I do realize GML is a team, I know this as I was part of that team for one era. I was, like all other eras I've played, loyal to the team and always thought of the team before myself. This was quite evident by putting my colony in harms way, not once, but twice for the good of the alliance. But that was on E2 a couple of eras ago. I made a commitment to you to play an era, and we won! But I never said I'd only play with GML forever. I like a variety, play with different people, make new friends, learn new tricks in the game.

Here's a little scenario for you. Back in 1971, Muhammed Ali, maybe the best fighter ever, fought against Joe Frazier. This was their first fight ever. Joe Frazier beat Muhammed Ali by a Split Decision after 15 rounds of fighting. Wouldn't it have been very sad if Joe Frazier never gave Ali a chance to fight again. This is kind of like our last era. We went the distance, and went past into extra innings. It still ended as a tie for relics, but you were able to get the win by points...

So what have you. Show me your team. Show me the strength in numbers that GML has. Give it a go...








Are you suggesting that I am the apprentice and you are the master. Tab, you are a good player, no doubt about it. You have no doubt shown me a couple of things about BD, but you can not deny the fact that I showed you some nice things that made you a better player too. Please don't refer yourself as the master to me again, or suggest I am your apprentice... I'm quite offended...





Please, I beg you, make me eat those words....

Creel, in regard to Tab saying he was your master,*I* am the the arrogant one? lol!

nicely said, creel, but unfortunately it looks like GML will chicken out anyway.

that's a shame... my last serious era was E1A5, and i was ready to give another serious one, trying to recruit the old UBLs and to find out the answer to a question that bothers me a little. who is better - GML or UBL? but unfortunately it looks like we're heading to another regular era.

the funny thing is... with all the talks about and against creel by Tab and Vulnar, i bet that if he would play for GML again, they would have played alright...


well, actually im the arrogant one lol. why does it even matter who teach who? what matter is that Tab wont face Creel and i guess being "his master" he sure knows why. btw... i cant really blame him... i wouldnt want to face Creel myself, because eventhough i dont have anything to do with Creel's skills, i know just enough to not want to face him lol

Since Creel has finally commented in our official response, I now feel it is appropriate for me to join the discussion.

My thread is directed ONLY to Creel as the potential challenger and Avi as the bearer of the UBL lineage. For all the rest, you have no hope of affecting the outcome of this discussion, no matter how numerous or substantial arguments you think you can come up with.

Creel, we already explained you that your point was noted, we understand that you are trying to challenge us and that you want a rematch.
Our question is why you don’t understand that we choose to ignore it because it is just you and some others, maybe exquisite, but still not alliance wise tested players.

Not even close to the reputation of an alliance that GML is now looking for as a rival.

Avi, my words to you will be rather different. You shouldn’t need me to explain to you that for GML as a whole (main members, subs, strategies, recruits, diplomacy, etc etc) to work out with the efficiency that GML actually does, a tremendous amount of effort, time and resources is required. I really don’t see why some people tend to think that Tabula and the rest of us are expected to unleash and invest all this power, when we don’t feel we want to and especially just because an ex-member feels he has some open business with GML.

Our response to your proposal remains an undebatable NO, for the challenge as it stands and for whom it stands.

I do sympathize any further argumentation on your behalf people trying to tease us, but as you see it is not working. Carrying this on will only be an attempt to spoil the GML reputation, which is understandable, but also flirts with being childish

With kind regards to all who deserve it,
Orestis aka Great Ruler

OK, this is foolish... Several of the members of the alliance that is issuing this challenge have won by way of sweep the last two eras they played...
Yes, that's right, two sweeps, 10 relics... That's two in a row... We are game tested, and are waiting for a challenge. Just because we do not fly the same name flag all the time doesn't mean we are not a team. If you don't want to play, then just say so. There is no reason for you to be condescending and shoo us away...

The arrogance you guys have is unbelievable...

If you guys don't want to play, fine. I thought we could have some fun, as most I hear from say E3 GML vs. ARM was epic. But if that was too close for comfort for you, and you fear you will not be able to win the next time around, then fine, go on your way. We'll continue to play the game, as we got it good, quite addicted... We'll go on and probably get another sweep of all the relics... I'm sure that is still unworthy of GML competition though...

That's a good point, this alliance is as close to Simp as GML ever has been to any of it's previous iterations. We played twice and mopped up the server with 10 relics both times.

But of course we had two different flags, perhaps we should not expect GML to understand that our players are capable of being motivated under different flags. This is why players like Shiz are awesome, there is no situation where she folds... I can't say the same for all of you.

You ignore a challenge by insulting us, saying we aren't ready, even though we've got two 10 relic wins in a row, on earth servers, which GML has not done. Interesting.

its pathetic to see whats written in this thread

Creel and company challenges GML to play on a server against him(and many other accomplished players). Instead of respectfully declining, wether the timing is wrong for them or whatever the reason is, as GML has every right to decline, GML decides to insult the challenge and the players offering the challenge. Fact is, the players offering the challenge are just as accomplished as GML, if not even more accomplished, only difference is that they use a different flag everytime(and win without subs, just had to add that )

just a thought... does GML check which alliances they are going to face every time before joining a server to make sure they are worthy enough?...

about the different flags thing, it is just a matter of attitude. while we feel that changing 4-5 players makes it a different alliance, you dont. it's your right as it is ours. i dont know GML from its beginning, but i would find it hard to believe that the last GML was exactly as the first one. in our book it is a different alliance that should have had a different name, that's all.

so sorry guys, Tab, Vulnar, Orestis, your excuses are childish. you could just say "we dont want to play because our members cant be active or just dont feel like it", but the excuses you choose to use are childish and make it looks like you are just affraid.

Far too much for me to read. Is GML playing or not?

Most likely not.

-Gaurav