What multi's? Are you talking about the legit players we have (all maybe 30 of them) compared to your so called "legit" 200 some players within all of your subs?

Yea. I'm sure we couldn't find a legit 30 some members to play with us, but you easily found 20 subs worth of members without any flaws somewhere in there.

I'm fine with you accusing us of backstabbing; in this case, sure you can call it that, but multi'ing? Dafaq did that come from? As I said before, I do not like backstabbing and I will admit, we did do it. Attacking without pre-notice with a NAP is indeed backstabbing. We are giving "excuses" as you put it (we say reasons) for why we did it, simple as that. The betrayed always view it as excuses, the betrayers always say reasons. I know I'd be saying the same things if I was on the other side, or even a neutral in this.

Anywho, agree with Kenny here. Let's stop kicking the dead horse. He told me his side is starting to hurt. Let's move on from the petty name calling (BOTH SIDES) and continue warring.

UN has been doing a great job so far with traps and tactics lately. We weren't expecting you to have over 250 ticks worth of spy infiltration on one of OUR gates. With that said though, I think it's pretty obvious both sides were preparing for a war. Whether or not UN would declare it, who knows now. BYZ backstabbed, we'll never know if UN would have taken the higher ground. (Please don't comment that you would of, no point. It didn't happen, BYZ already backstabbed, let's just continue on reality here, not what if's).

Sorry for the double post but i must clarify this. Everyone keeps saying that we have about "200" members. Anyone who knew basic math would know that this is not true. For 200 members we would need to have 20 subs while we have less than 10....we about 6 or 7 subs. LION doesn´t count as a sub btw, only as a brother alliance just like HaHa was a brother alliance to you ^_^

You might recall that you were also extremely spread out at first yet you didn´t even allow us to make gates and radars in Europe, let alone GL.

Also, we were prepared to give comensation for PHX, you simply never asked for it, you cannot complain about us not giving it to you if you never asked for it ^_^

You keep talking about allies don´t do this or allies don´t need permission for that, but you are forgetting the most important thing allies don´t do and that is attacking and warring each other which is exactly what you have done.

there is something called "precaution".. and i am glad we did , or we would be even more screwed xD

when i talk about the multis, i am talking about those "miracle" colonys that appeared and in few ticks they started spamming more than 20 and 30 squads -.-'

You didnt have to make a gate or a radar in Greenland, as there was nothing to take there. Secondly, I remember seeing UN gates and radars in Greenland before we relocated there. Also we didnt let you in EU? When we attacked I wonder who we launched attacks against in EU



We were treating you as allies. Hence why no demand for compensation was made. You on the other hand didn't extend us the same courtesy.



It was clear that you weren't allies. Given the fact that you had a over 220 tick spy on our gate.



Precaution also means lack of trust. Hence why you were going to backstab us. It was a matter of time.



Those miracle colonies appear in every era, in every server. If you feel they are multis, report them. Secondly, we have suffered such attacks right in our hive. And now that guy is in your sub

Well this is what set off the bad mood in the first place, it was agreed before era started that you's would be in the americas and we said we will be in africa, But you all appeared in europe.

That chat is long. I posted only that part of it. We did tell him we were starting in EU. Also, colonies dont really matter. They are just like outposts. Would you be okay with TBs then? You should be worried about Squads and infrastructure, not colonies. We are just as vulnerable as you in that case.