one who find pleasures in being hurt, physically and / or mentally.

think of it this way

look around, people, space, atoms, and everything

what created it, if not god?

it cant just appear on its own

oh yeah, just like The Sims... u click Create New Sims and put their names, choose their clothes, appearance and personaility. And ppl just appear like that... Awesome...

LOL its obvious that u ppl havent readen the whole bible, so stop arguing cz ur looking stupid xD(atheists)

so when u ppl r ready, talk to me

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being a former christian i've read the whole bible at least once. come at me bro!

Ive read the bible the new testament and the old testament, more than once. Whats your point?



Yeah it cant appear on its own. We are trying to find out how. Its a daunting task. But it certainly isnt something that gives magic validity.

Okay, so since your last post, "u ppl" has been 1 atheist guy and one theist guy.

Regardless of whether people have read the whole bible, the bible was made by MAN. So why does that validate the existance of God?

first of all he was WRITTEN by man, but the words was caming from our god jesus himself , do u got any better quest?

every body takes different meaning from each word in a book

reading is nothing, but to delevope the words into there true meaning is the way you read the wholeness in a book

for exaple i can prove this with one simple word

LOVE, what is your diffinetion

mine is......i would die for you


hince i dont take the word at face value and throw it out everywhere

so read the words for the underlieing meaning and get what you can

the bible is a manual to our problems not a symbol of power, but rather a symbol for our powerless moments

If you read the bible you'd know that Jesus was not God. He was man. He was PERCEIVED to be God. Its these perceptions that were written into Gospels. So like I said, they are subject to the same flaws of opinions, storytelling rhetoric of those times etc., So they are not really God's words or whatever. The Bible is a very misleading and inaccurate book, with lots of scientific flaws.

Like Mary being a virgin and getting conceived. Turning water to wine, although if Jesus gave me that recipe Id be the happiest man

Gunsgunsguns, sure if you find inspiration from anything, please do. But its just not God's word. The debate is how does this prove that there is a higher power? Atheism has nothing to do with Christianity. But still. How does the Bible validate the existence of a higher power?