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aister · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:13 pm

vaultdweller101 wrote:

aister wrote:

thinking it wrong is just ur own perspective.

everyone should have freedom of love, everyone can love whoever they want and it's not our job to prohibit them just becuz we think it's wrong.

Theyre just different kinds of love. And its practically guaranteed that the relationships will both fail and hurt both of the participants. Plus, it encourages even more of this behaviour, almost like a desease. Since you will always love the nearest members of your family, it would be inavoidable to think its the love/sex relationship at some point, and if its allowed, and even visible on other ppl... the chances would grow with each couple. Its just... I mean, Ive pucked inside my brain about 10 times thinking about this... its just too wrong. It crosses the line, simple as that, and it always will. And as far as freedom of love, when it shows a bad behavior to other ppl, it just shouldnt be done. Even if we couldnt care less about an already formed couple, we HAVE to care for the other ppl that might be confused looking at this, and imitate just because its possible by law.

I summarize ur post into 3 main ideas:

1. Mistake for family love
2. It's just wrong
3. Bad behavior to others

1. Mistake for family love.
How many times u, ur friend or someone u know, mistake close friendship as love? And how many of them go out with each other? And how many of them marry to each other?

Mistaking close relationship for love is inevitable. But they won't lead to anywhere far. So there are actually no need to worry about this thing.

2. It's just wrong
Years ago, love between same gender is wrong
More back in the timeline, all rights for the black is wrong
more, love between the rich and the poor is wrong
even more, love between ppl in different village is wrong
in some countries, love between older woman and younger man is wrong

So tell me, wat is wrong? Is it them? Or just the perspective that say it's wrong?

3. Bad behaviors
Tell me wat is bad behaviors in this case? And tell me the difference between it in incest relationship, and in normal boy-girl relationship.

CodeoftheSith · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 669

1. im not reading 13 pages on this topic...
2. im still wondering how this topic got 13 pages about it in the first place....

spanish · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:39 pm

Everyone is debating on wheather or not incest should be legal even though there opinions wont change anything :roll:

sad but true ^

CodeoftheSith · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 669

that much i knew from the first page, but i'm jus' sayin' how can this topic have such a debate that theres what? 13 pages worth?

YesNoMaybe · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:48 pm

Maybe if you read it, you would know.

spanish · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:49 pm

well they found a way :roll:

CodeoftheSith · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 669

lol apparently.

vaultdweller101 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:42 pm

aister wrote:

vaultdweller101 wrote:

aister wrote:

thinking it wrong is just ur own perspective.

everyone should have freedom of love, everyone can love whoever they want and it's not our job to prohibit them just becuz we think it's wrong.

Theyre just different kinds of love. And its practically guaranteed that the relationships will both fail and hurt both of the participants. Plus, it encourages even more of this behaviour, almost like a desease. Since you will always love the nearest members of your family, it would be inavoidable to think its the love/sex relationship at some point, and if its allowed, and even visible on other ppl... the chances would grow with each couple. Its just... I mean, Ive pucked inside my brain about 10 times thinking about this... its just too wrong. It crosses the line, simple as that, and it always will. And as far as freedom of love, when it shows a bad behavior to other ppl, it just shouldnt be done. Even if we couldnt care less about an already formed couple, we HAVE to care for the other ppl that might be confused looking at this, and imitate just because its possible by law.

I summarize ur post into 3 main ideas:

1. Mistake for family love
2. It's just wrong
3. Bad behavior to others

1. Mistake for family love.
How many times u, ur friend or someone u know, mistake close friendship as love? And how many of them go out with each other? And how many of them marry to each other?

Mistaking close relationship for love is inevitable. But they won't lead to anywhere far. So there are actually no need to worry about this thing.

Friendship and love are different, yes. But you are bound to love your family, usually. Friendship and love are 2 completely different things. But love between family and love between 2 soulmates/couple/whatever name u find - theyre not so different. That means, theyre easily confused.

2. It's just wrong
Years ago, love between same gender is wrong
More back in the timeline, all rights for the black is wrong
more, love between the rich and the poor is wrong
even more, love between ppl in different village is wrong
in some countries, love between older woman and younger man is wrong

So tell me, wat is wrong? Is it them? Or just the perspective that say it's wrong?

We grow up together with our brothers and sisters, we play together with our cousins, were raised by our parents, were pampered by our granparents, and bullied by our uncles. Thats what a normal family is... but sex is not a part of this. My point by saying its wrong is, that they actually collide. You simply cant look at your mother as a mother one day, and as your wife the other. Theyre so different, yet similar things all the same, that it simply messes up the purpose of both loves. It will always eventually lead to a complete failure, as a mom/wife, and as a son/husband (using that example, but it works on all others).

3. Bad behaviors
Tell me wat is bad behaviors in this case? And tell me the difference between it in incest relationship, and in normal boy-girl relationship.
Explained above. Btw you missed your own boy-boy or girl-girl scenario. I myself dont think being gay is all bad, it just wont perpetuate human life, but besides with that idc what ppl get stuffed with. And I never said it was a bad behavior, even if it is: but, as I think you yourself resumed, its wrong. Again, for the reasons I gave above. And it is the behavior of liking a member of your family as a sex partner, ofc.

mfreak · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:25 pm

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mfreak, no, incest isn't all about sex.

First, I support for love, everyone has the right to love anyone, anything, no matter wat status, religion, gender, blood-related or non-blood-related, or even something that doesn't exist. As long as that one found true happiness in the one he/she loves, I don't see any problems at all.

But then, when it comes to sex, of course, both parties must be above legal ages and both agree to do it.

Let's throw out all the normal, traditional perspective, they are really in love with each other, so wat's the problem?

I don't care how someone is related to the other, be it brother-sister, cousin, teacher-student, etc. As long as they love each other, I support them.

Dude what is with you and love? :lol:

Sex does not always have to be because of love. Ive had sex just for the heck of it. Ive had sex when I didnt wanna have sex :lol:

And Ive had sex when I was bored lol. And of course when I have been in love. But everytime I am in it just for the physical gratification. So dont delude yourself thinking it is all about love, even in incestual relationships is all am saying.

Secondly, rederoin there is another status - No Status. Legally not defined. Thats what Id propose for things like incest. For example, I dont think incest is defined in Indian law (I GUESS NOT SURE). In certain Hindu communities its considered a despicable thing. But then again Ive know some people marry their elder sisters daughter (Cousin marriage ?) which is incest? So why attach legality to something that depends on culture and tradition in some cases ?

aister · **Posted:** Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:47 pm

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Sex does not always have to be because of love

true, I didn't put "two ppl have to love each other to have sex"

I only say 2 things: age and agreement (gosh I think I said these two things 9 out of 10 posts of mine in this thread).

Should incest be legal?