The truth is harsh mate

and the truth is oil banking is banned

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.[ - B.R.

No reason to be so bombastic, but anyway I get the gist. Though can you explain the statement above?

Are you trying to STATE that people who are against a principle or idea that has been in existence for centuries, are wrong? OR are you trying to just state your perception of what normally happens in society?

Bangman and mfreak, don't even use the age card on me. Trust me when I say it, I know more than a simple 13 year old. Anyway, I don't know how anyone in their right mind can believe in the christian god that's supposed to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient, even though that's impossible. What bothers me more is he's regarded as all loving (benevolent) yet several things in the bible and christian religion itself contradict that statement.

wat he's trying to say is people believe wat they can see. Wat they can't see, or prove, will never be accepted, unless it's a convincing theory.

It isn't there just doesn't mean it isn't there. It isn't there because u can't see it there.

It's more like idealism, if you believe it's there, it's there. If you don't believe it's there, even if it's really there, it's not there.

@sup-kun: Age card? The trap card that turn ur flipped card old and get a decrese in attack and defense?

Ok first, I really want to know why you call me sup kun. Second, lol.

I am not trying to play the age card against you. Am trying to tell you that your view of life, is rather too grim. If you are a 13 year old, you are either being too pessimistic or trying to be overtly mature. But anyway, life IS tough, but not horrible or whatever. Its the very hardships and difficulties that actually make it worthwhile.

Anyway coming back to the topic, there is nothing wrong with people believing in Christ. As much as it sounds lame to us, we should let people make their choices and live by them and not ridicule them. But most of the time its the Atheists that get ridiculed lol.

The idea of no afterlife is pessimistic for me. You really don't feel saddened by the ''fact'' that people who had to endure cancer or... say spent a life in prison... or got murdered don't get an afterlife?

Feeling saddened by something isn't a legit reason to believe in an afterlife.. I like to think about it rationally, and then they indeed don't have an afterlife. I agree it would suck for people that are murdered indeed, but I won't try and make it sound better in my head by thinking they will have an afterlife.

Call me pessimistic, I call it just realistic. You can go to bed without doing the dishes and hope the elves will do it for you, or you can be realistic about it, face the fact there is no proof of elves existing, and do the dishes before you go to bed.