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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:09 pm 
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Creel wrote:
........ because they know they don't have the muscle to take us on alone...



Seems to me that's what f69 was waiting for. You guys waited until we were engaged in another war before you decide you're willing to attack. Now, what was that again about taking on someone alone?....lol :roll:

I guess that we should be preparing for the inevitable attack on us now that we ARE engaged with a couple of other alliances, eh? Whodathunkit? Believe it or not, I really have no problem with that strategy.....It ensures greater chance of success with minimal losses. You guys just started it in a lowdown way, that's all...... ;) Don't fool yourself that mL is scared to take on f69, though. You're not so good that people should be afraid of you. I'd have to say that you guys are the favorites, but there's a reason the world didn't stop when you guys jumped down into the pit......


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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:37 pm 
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Creel wrote:
Fact is there was no NAP. We even warned mL earlier not to fly their relics near our hive... So how is it a low blow when we warn them not to do it, have no NAP with them, so we take it. It's not low, it's not backstabbing. It is an alliance taking advantage of a sucker...


This is kind of crap statement to make. I had a good conversation with Mo while this was happening. I ensured him to trust me and trust mL that this is by no means an act of aggression towards F69. I mentioned that this would be a huge act of good faith on both our sides and help strengthen our relationship/trust to let this pass. He assured me that their would be no issues unless any of those troops set foot in Europe. And guess what? We didn't (even passed up on some easy conquers to appease them).

You guys have made your point, and we both see the situation differently. But you need to stop bringing up untrue scenarios such as this one that creel just layed out as well as the one where I was contacted about extending the NAP. These are false situations that never happened.

Now back to the matter at hand...we sure we cant organize some kind of dance off?

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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:51 pm 
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Creel wrote:
we sure we cant organize some kind of dance off?



Are you sure you want to settle this in a dance off...

I like are chances



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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:07 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:49 am 
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Redwurm wrote:
Creel wrote:
Fact is there was no NAP. We even warned mL earlier not to fly their relics near our hive... So how is it a low blow when we warn them not to do it, have no NAP with them, so we take it. It's not low, it's not backstabbing. It is an alliance taking advantage of a sucker...


This is kind of crap statement to make. I had a good conversation with Mo while this was happening. I ensured him to trust me and trust mL that this is by no means an act of aggression towards F69. I mentioned that this would be a huge act of good faith on both our sides and help strengthen our relationship/trust to let this pass. He assured me that their would be no issues unless any of those troops set foot in Europe. And guess what? We didn't (even passed up on some easy conquers to appease them).

You guys have made your point, and we both see the situation differently. But you need to stop bringing up untrue scenarios such as this one that creel just layed out as well as the one where I was contacted about extending the NAP. These are false situations that never happened.

Now back to the matter at hand...we sure we cant organize some kind of dance off?



OK - ENOUGH ALREADY !

Spin it any way you want - there was NO NAP between F69 and mL. This is an indispuitable fact. No matter how many excuses are made or how many attempts are made to cloud the issue the fact is that either alliance could have chosen to attack each other at any point from tick 1500.

The fact that mL forgot that the NAP had run out is their fault - not ours. And just for information - I don't particulary blame Redwurm for this omission, an alliance is made up of ALL it's members and if the other members of mL weren't interested in keeping up to date on the current diplomatic status of mL - well thats just poor !

Who we colour blue, red or yellow on our map is our business. It is not for anyone else to comment on. And anyone who says that they have never changed an alliances colour on a map to suit their current policy is either lying or a fool.

Yes - I spoke to Redwurm on many occasions, and we did question mL's intentions - BECAUSE we were aware that they were free to attack !

We tracked the mL relic with our own forces BECAUSE there was no NAP.

We warned mL to keep out of Europe BECAUSE there was no NAP.

And we chose a time to act that was to our strategic advantage because we are not stupid and BECAUSE there was no NAP.

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Oh! and 1 last point - yes, Redwurm is quite correct - I did speak to him on many occasions and I never asked to renew the NAP. But then again - why would I - it was mL who came asking for the NAP in the 1st place - so renewal was up to them.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:43 am 
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Mo: Blue = Friendly. f69 attacked an alliance marked as friendly. No spin, no propaganda.......just fact. Simple, no?


Answer two questions for us, please: 1. Did your alliance attack mL? 2. Did your alliance have mL marked as friendly until immediately before the attack? A simple YES or NO will suffice. Thank you for your consideration of these questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:32 am 
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wow, seriously your either a sore loser who finds any excuse to say, OR your just a complete idiot, uve played BD for a long time, long enough to know that who u have marked as BLUE or RED is no nobodys concern but your own, what other alliances need to concern themselves about is what the diplomatic relations are, and mL KNEW that there was no relations, therefore they were a neutral alliance(AND THEY KNEW THIS). We didnt trick mL into thinking we were anything but neutral to them, mL KNEW WE WERE NEUTRAL, plain and simple. Seriously which one is it, u just that sore about loosing the relic, or u just that stupid? I cant figure it out, but the more u talk, the more im leaning towards the second option


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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:35 am 
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Mo: Blue = Friendly. f69 attacked an alliance marked as friendly. No spin, no propaganda.......just fact. Simple, no?


Answer two questions for us, please: 1. Did your alliance attack mL? 2. Did your alliance have mL marked as friendly until immediately before the attack? A simple YES or NO will suffice. Thank you for your consideration of these questions.


mL wasn't friendly alliance to us - and we weren't friendly for them !!!
why?
otherwise mL would listen to us and wouldn't cross ocean with 6000 units on board one of their relics -
why they didn't attacked our relics ?
and what they would do with them ? hide in a pocket ?
when mL launched their relic towards Iceland and Greenland we had many units down in antarctica but we noticed loaded relic still in NA, early enough to bring our forces back to Europe
why they were heading towards Greenland ? They said that they wanted to take out EuF - alliance with only few crystals and low power - that will make laugh many of you - 6000 units to conquer few colonies :lol:

YOU CAME TO EUROPE/ASIA WITH BAD INTENTIONS
to conquer, raze and kill - you are EVIL


Your diplomacy failed - you wanted to take out KoR almost without a fight, tou were warned by UE to not enter Arabia but you did it and you weren't even enough aware to protect your own relic
You lost it because you were mean - you could drop your squads in africa and move them to arabia, your relic would be safe but thanks to your great tactics you safe some oil and energy :lol:

so don't blame us for your stupidity

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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
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Vincent wrote:
and mL KNEW that there was no relations, therefore they were a neutral alliance(AND THEY KNEW THIS). We didnt trick mL into thinking we were anything but neutral to them, mL KNEW WE WERE NEUTRAL, plain and simple.


I thought we were friendly towards eachother, must be my super noobish mistake

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mL wasn't friendly alliance to us - and we weren't friendly for them !!!
why?
otherwise mL would listen to us and wouldn't cross ocean with 6000 units on board one of their relics -
why they didn't attacked our relics ?
and what they would do with them ? hide in a pocket ?
when mL launched their relic towards Iceland and Greenland we had many units down in antarctica but we noticed loaded relic still in NA, early enough to bring our forces back to Europe
why they were heading towards Greenland ? They said that they wanted to take out EuF - alliance with only few crystals and low power - that will make laugh many of you - 6000 units to conquer few colonies :lol:

YOU CAME TO EUROPE/ASIA WITH BAD INTENTIONS
to conquer, raze and kill - you are EVIL


Can anyone make heads or tails of this? Maybe a translation of sorts? Might just be in early in the morning eh?

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 Post subject: Re: Wow f69!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:53 pm 
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Xeder wrote:
mL wasn't friendly alliance to us - and we weren't friendly for them !!!
why?
otherwise mL would listen to us and wouldn't cross ocean with 6000 units on board one of their relics -
why they didn't attacked our relics ?
and what they would do with them ? hide in a pocket ?
when mL launched their relic towards Iceland and Greenland we had many units down in antarctica but we noticed loaded relic still in NA, early enough to bring our forces back to Europe
why they were heading towards Greenland ? They said that they wanted to take out EuF - alliance with only few crystals and low power - that will make laugh many of you - 6000 units to conquer few colonies :lol:

YOU CAME TO EUROPE/ASIA WITH BAD INTENTIONS
to conquer, raze and kill - you are EVIL


Can anyone make heads or tails of this? Maybe a translation of sorts? Might just be in early in the morning eh?


Makes absolutely perfect sense to me. Translation wise, I'm always impressed by people from mainland europe who can write such good english.

Rough precis then - mL sending a relic with 6000 units across the atlantic was perceived as aggressive by more than just UE. There was a response to that perceived aggression. This was unsurprising.

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