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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:32 pm 
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will now.i agree an disagree with this .i use to boost alot too, but came to the point that all people are doing is boosting to get a win earlier in the era's.BD was alot funner when people didnt cheat to win.personally there should be a time that allows alot of the player's that cant afford to buy tokens a chance to get stronger before the ones that always buy for the win that build up so quickly'an makes the eras to the point where no one wants to play anymore.im a old player from the old client of the old BD.an with all the changes recently has gotten to the point where it is not as fun as it use to be. building time i agree with .its crazy that some alliance can have units so quickly in the era that makes alot of players just give up.lets all give this a chance an see how it works out.an yes BD should have a non paying server too.Bd makes enough off the big time payers of BD to be able to have a server as such.then the real talent would be shown in stead of buying for the wins.
just a point of veiw froma old time BD player.
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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:09 pm 
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hmmm....i dont even know where to begin... :lol: :lol:

you can see the sides mainly non-boosters w/ minimal-supporters Vs. Mass supporters..the rest neutral sharing their points of views... :mrgreen:

well, Daemon, bro, you can be President of Mass supporter and i can be one of those comradz... :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

Kane,Avi and to all those who are against such had highlighted good points...thank you!

THE DARK SIDE OF ME: :twisted: :twisted: :evil:

well, i cant be bothered anymore:

1) If this is sooo..then i will stop supporting...
2) lets see how BD income statistic shows...
3) In short, as you can see this is a one sided point of view...valued mass supporters are not treated equally..no warning, direct ban! then they do a temporary ban for all world...what if I'm clean at other world?? yet im banned as well...once again, being taken advantage of...

PROACTIVE SIDE OF ME 8-) :D

1) WELL, YOU CAN'T SATISFY HUMANS! THEY WANT MORE! solutions, corrections is one way to resolve such..and keep adjusting till you have a 90% smooth system..not a perfect one but a systematic and smooth system..

2) with doing such enforcement, obviously, you lose out alot of the mass supporters.. LIKE ME!! :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: i'm on STRIKE NOW!!! :evil: :evil:

Proposals: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :geek: :idea:

1) well, you cant have it all, why not try a system lets say a tournament world..for MARS, EARTH and FANTASY.

:idea: - Minimal Entrance fee like 200reds(since this is the smallest purchase) at paypal or something... in order to participate on a tournament world.

:idea: - "Token farm" is accepted with in the team/alliance only. Once again, since this is a tournament..i dont see why not..Cool down is still there...
Main Purpose:
* Help grow.. rebuild, all FTW since its a tournament...
* Organize the map...radars / gates bla bla bla...
* This can replace the famous E1 and E4 where all mass supporters are... since its a serious round and all the perfectionist player are there...and of course, well organised team..dont forget..last E1 era boost reset at tick 2 then almost everyday nearly twice reset :lol: :lol: \o/ !!!ROCK ON!!! \o/

:idea: - With this tournament, it eliminates suchs complains...everyone happy..supporters get what they want..non supporters dont have to complain or take advantage out of it...balance and fair as they say...its a win win situation..

:idea: - Non supporter can join, by the help of fellow supporters friend giving them tokens to register. Since a supporter can spend $1K in an era...i think 200reds means nothing to the supporter. since he/she wants his non supporter team to join because of active level, good, smart..bla bla bla...

:idea: - I'm very sure this eliminates 90% of colony farm since u have to register/pay minimal cost for the tournament. unless your also willing to create 100 colonies = 20K reds... then its gone with in a certain tick... by all means!!! ahahaha... :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: cant be bothered...

:idea: - Try out for 1tick and 2 tick for all worlds...no harm doing soo...

:idea: - Prizes, well, i leave it to you BD management/staff since its a tournament more Blues would be nice...like 3-5K per member?? hehehe :mrgreen: :mrgreen: SERIOUSLY! since reds is out of the question! :roll:

:idea: - Normal worlds continue as it is same old same old...the cool downs..the rules, no farming colonies, no nothing.... :| :| everyone boost normally... bla bla bal...

till then, i leave it to you all...once again, think!! who are you actually loosing...who are your valued customers?

this is where we have "customer feedback" who are paying and are will to pay. what they think of it...how to improve... NOT JUST SHUTTING THEM DOWN!

well, back to warcraft if that is soo... :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

you all takecare,

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:15 pm 
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SoF what is wrong with following the rules and boosting at normal rates and following what everyone else does by waiting for cool downs? it shows that all your doing in a round is mass boosting and proves that if we allow this to continue that skill will have no merit in BD. it needs to be punished by those who do it. we can still spend 1k's on a round if we wait for cool downs. at almost 200 now at tick 400.

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:58 pm 
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Andrew wrote:
This announcement is much in part to address the issues raised in this thread, please check it out for background info: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=13443

Ok so we've had a staff meeting(We often aren't all on at the same time but today we had all the primary admins plus our lead developer together :D) about this issue and a few others. Sunday we are planning to release an update, this update is about this issue and other imbalances around power users as well as farming.

The decision made from this meeting is that YES IT IS AGAINST THE RULES to send tokens to another player for the purpose of them buying a boost to send the resources to another player to get around the cooldowns on boosts. We feel that because the essential purpose of these actions are to evade the cooldown timers on boosts that this is being classified as abusing a loophole. Going forward we will be enforcing this and anyone found doing this will be warned/suspended depending on severity.

That said the update this weekend will have the following updates, #1 will address the above issue permanently:

1) We will be adding in a function to track and disallow metal/oil(Galaxy: minerals/gas, Fantasy: gold/wood) purchased with tokens to be sent to other players. More details on how exactly this system works will be provided once the coding is complete.

2) Crystals will be earned at power level 40 from now on instead of 20. With the changes we made to the way power is calculated over the last year or two it is fairly easy to achieve 20 power. This makes it far too easy for someone to farm crystals and as such we are doubling the requirement to 40 power. This will also help with newer players having more units to be able to better defend themselves once they do achieve the power requires to earn a crystal instead of losing it so quickly.

3) The first 100 ticks of a round are crucial, power gaming(Purchasing a lot of boosts with blue and/or red tokens) during this time gives a significant advantage as you can quickly build structures now with the reduced build times. To rebalance this to prevent power gamers having a serious advantage so fast with advanced units and tech we are going to increase the build time(Cost will be staying the same at this point) on some or all level 4 and 5 structures.


Feel free to give feedback and discuss these changes in this thread. These ideas are not yet fully finalized and community input as always will have a say in the development of Battle Dawn.

Thanks and have a great day everyone!

-Andrew

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:01 pm 
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whoa guy above me.. troll much with a name like that and only one post..

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:10 pm 
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Dylan102 wrote:
whoa guy above me.. troll much with a name like that and only one post..


:lol: :lol: no comment :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:18 pm 
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trevor1601 wrote:
SoF what is wrong with following the rules and boosting at normal rates and following what everyone else does by waiting for cool downs? it shows that all your doing in a round is mass boosting and proves that if we allow this to continue that skill will have no merit in BD. it needs to be punished by those who do it. we can still spend 1k's on a round if we wait for cool downs. at almost 200 now at tick 400.

-Trevor


well bro,

read my proposals and request...if its rejected? i dont mind...is it prohibited to share ideas too?? will i get ban for it?? :cry: :cry:

I've highlighted all my points of views...like i said, leave as it is now... but rather make a new world tournament...list as shown earlier...if you dont like it.. vote NO! :mrgreen: simple as that...we mass supporters want to be fitted into all normal players too... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: sharing ideas how to resolve such matter...this is why its being posted...to know everyone's point of view...how bad or good the system is...rather than not taking actions..and then, others would take such advantage in future...

since I'm one of the mass supporters, i believe i got my rights of share to say... like a stock holder..even a 1% guy has his rights to say...

till then takecare,

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:32 pm 
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You guys must have no clue about what you are discussing or what "solutions" you think you are arriving at. This is probably the dumbest update that I have seen on BD. Shame on you all. For all I care, you admins should get fired. I would if I was Michael. You guys show a complete disconnect about the status of things ingame, how the game generally works and what is needed for a win. You have updated this game numerous times and shaped it into a - Who has the largest squads, wins the game contest. And now you wanna deny the advantage that boosters have over non boosters, EVEN if they spend tons of cash on this game.

I dont care about the 40 power thing. But what you are telling me is that I dont have any advantage even if I use money. Hope you figured out an alternate way to earn money.

Anyways, like I said before, until you get over your stupidity and come up with something constructive, I am done for good, just like many others. Not one more dime will be spent on this stupid game run by jaded idiots.

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:34 pm 
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Read this good post: http://www.battledawn.com/forum/viewtop ... 75&t=11417 about improving the game. Posted May 18 and what has been done?

How about spending the weekend working out a plan for these items instead of a knee jerk response to one very narrow issue?

Limiting resource transfers is very hard to implement without causing unintended problems - why not spend the time on overall game improvements and everyone will enjoy the game much more. You have a starting list that Kevin posted - lets get moving on it!!!

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 Post subject: Re: ToS clarifications and update planned for this weekend!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:47 pm 
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Those kind of problems will never be looked into. Few people start whining, there will be a knee jerk reaction and a couple of stupid updates. Everytime there is an update, there will be reduction in resources received ingame through taxation or whatever, encouraging spending, but now there has to be another update that actually discourages spending even if people want to. By bring in ANOTHER rule.

In another couple of years, the game will have more rules than game mechanics. lol.

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