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cosmin1980
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:16 pm |
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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:49 am Posts: 231
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seth...you really shouldn't have gone there.
now you made me destroy not only your arguments but also andrew's.
the f5 ban was a complete and total blunder...i built to watch, didnt login for a while, and a person i knew in BD (like so many others) conquered me. andrew, without thinking, issued a random pointless ban which almost ruined my f4 era. And i ended up winning that F5 where i was allegedly "a farm" with 1066 crystals! How worse off can an admin be?! Totally ridiculous
In e1 i was banned because i sent tokens to a friend who attacked poor little Kevin...another abuse, as "supporting spamming colonies" was listed nowhere as an offense or defined in any way...a pure invention of the admin.
So both cases prove my point...random subjective decisions by admins who most of the time have no in depth knowledge of anything only hurt and affect the game.
What you did seth was to ban our colony in africa so keeping us from gating and also banned me for exact amount of ticks needed so i lose all my army. I could accuse you of being on Gift payroll easily for that.
So please...when you have no arguments just stay silent, admit your mistake and try to improve. Debating when you have nothing to stand on is detrimental to you credibility
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psg188
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:18 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 1410 Location: Georgia Tech Gender: male
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I'm glad Allen is done posting here, as he did nothing but repeat points I already refuted.
As for Oluvai. Since not everyone is privy to my MSN chat log... we had a long conversation and I've come to the conclusion that there is no point in me spending 20 minutes for each reply to him when there can be no basic common ground to work with.
In essence, Oluvai wants a game where anything is allowed at all times. Game mechanics alone should restrict things deemed unfair.
We tried this a long time ago, it didn't work out. That's not a game I want to play, and it's not a game that Michael or the admins want to run. When you get a sense of how to balance game features, or when you understand how certain features interact in unintended ways then we can resume this debate.
The fact is. I don't want a game where it is entirely on the developers to figure out what's going on and only fix things after the fact. That would mean each era a new flaw was introduced, the entire war and months of work could be completely useless. This may not matter to individual players, but to alliance leaders that would make the entire effort in vain. If this were a commercial game, we could hold it to commercial standards.
It's not, it's a free game. We should expect some basic support, and if they want the game to grow, constant development... but to expect it to be flawless is faulty.
Sorry Oluvai, all your grasping at individual words doesn't change that. From our conversation, the game you want to play is one I'd absolutely hate to play. I hope you find it someday.
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Seth
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:22 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 10:47 pm Posts: 2387 Location: U.S.A. Gender: male
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Nothing to stand on? I dont know what happened in those cases personally, I only know that you have a history for it, therefore knowing that it attracts admin attention. You should have at the very least, known to contact me to ask if this was like those situations, if for nothing else, just for sake of saving yourself a headache! This was not some willy nilly ban. This was you doing something you have done in the past and had issues with!
Had you done that, things would have likely been much different.
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cosmin1980
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:32 pm |
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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:49 am Posts: 231
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Seth...get a grip!
You caused me to lose all my army and ruined an entire strategic plan because of what? Nothing.
Your role is to enforce rules...please go to any BD site/forum/announcement board and find me the rule i broke. Find me that definition written or publicized anywhere and then you are right.
If you cannot just means you came up with your own opinion about some rule, never bothered to talk to me about it, and banned me in the middle of a very delicate move. You acted with no proof, no grounds and no clue.
Let me explain again...if you want something not to be done disable it via game mechanics, clearly list it as bannable offense or if you don't then sit put and don't do anything. Is that so hard?
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psg188
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:45 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 1410 Location: Georgia Tech Gender: male
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Cosmin... you lost most of your army from a missed delay.
Being banned for conquering the SA slave colony cost you 21 squads, which was about half your force.
You still had 400 squads in Africa. Seth didn't derail your plan, he just made it so you couldn't hide in the Africa colony. Is being forced to fight so bad?
Seth didn't drastically change anything. The amount of vitriol here is way over exaggerated.
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cosmin1980
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:47 pm |
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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:49 am Posts: 231
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As it seems I need to spell everything out like in 2nd grade, here is what I meant by "have clear set of rules" Seth.
Step 1. You go to main forum page and under Administration you create a topic called "Prohibited actions"
Step 2. You create a 3-column list with following headers: Offense, Definition, Punishment
Here's an example:
Offense: Multi Definition: Use of same IP for multiple accounts in any given era Punishment: perm ban
Simple, is it not?
List all the things you and other admins can come up with, publish it, and then I will never argue with you on the topic again.
Until you do you have NO RIGHT to ban me for any self-created rule. You are an administrator not judge and jury
Hope this is all now clear and we can move on. or in your case start applying step 1.
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littleconqueror
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:47 pm |
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:10 pm Posts: 2758 Location: USA Gender: male
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cosmin1980 wrote: Seth...get a grip!
You caused me to lose all my army and ruined an entire strategic plan because of what? Nothing.
Your role is to enforce rules...please go to any BD site/forum/announcement board and find me the rule i broke. Find me that definition written or publicized anywhere and then you are right.
If you cannot just means you came up with your own opinion about some rule, never bothered to talk to me about it, and banned me in the middle of a very delicate move. You acted with no proof, no grounds and no clue.
Let me explain again...if you want something not to be done disable it via game mechanics, clearly list it as bannable offense or if you don't then sit put and don't do anything. Is that so hard? kane shut it this is the post that matters make no comments until seth finds where it says in the rules where this is not allowed
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cosmin1980
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:50 pm |
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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:49 am Posts: 231
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kevin...this does not concern you. this is between me and seth. i never challenged your win. so please let seth defend himself for a change, will you?
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psg188
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:52 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 1410 Location: Georgia Tech Gender: male
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He's under attack from a dozen people who are displacing frustrations to a degree that I think is unfair.
I'd say this does concern me, as this situation has a lot to do with game balance.
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shelton9778
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Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:55 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:42 pm Posts: 1126 Location: Ocala Gender: male
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cosmin did you not say you wheree leaving for the rest of the year why are you still here being a critic when you sayed you would leave you are just causing problems for soemthing you have no intention on staying around and finishing out you sayed you where leaving yet you still keep replying and making things worse not cool when at least the admins are trying all you are doing is complaining as you said before you cant change it so why drag it out for nothing
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