We never begged anyone to help us. Avi is a player just like us. Heck he hasn't built his first unit. If he played with us from tick 1 seriously, he will be menace you cant handle. But as it stands now, he is busy with RL and he hasn't even built a single unit, nor spammed you. So I am not sure how your "friends" and our friend is the same. Apart from being friends that is lol.



We can handle everything. Fire, Rain, Water, Thunder, 11, Earth, Wind along with INWO, NML are 9 alliances, so my claim of 10 alliances was almost accurate. There was one other that did nothing though. As for our subs, I saw 2 or 3 members from those 4 alliances doing anything. The odds when it comes to numbers are heavily in your favor. But that is not what I am against. You can have a zillion subs, but farming your conquers, lying to them about teaching them the game in exchange for spams is just pathetic. That is what I am against.



Yes I use spies. More than spies they are just friends. E1 last era you were my Spy So what, if there is a member that betrays you, we cant be blamed.



We dont look at a loss as a loss, in any era we play. An era has to be hard fought. Relics and crystals are objectives but not winning after a hard fight is just as good, though winning would be great. There was nothing different about what WIND did, its standard protocol for them to use farms and sub farms. That was never a surprise. This is not common apart from a couple of teams on BD, and if you see the eras they play, you will see that the server will be dead. F4 a couple of eras back, the server ended tick 500. Why? Everyone was either an ally or a sub, and MGH won without competition. E4 this era, same thing. This era on M4 its SYN that is keeping the server alive. If it was not for SYN you'd be bored to death here. You will finally see not a lot of top players will play these servers. These same guys on E1 or E4, against some veterans like Kane, Tigran etc would just crumble in 100 ticks (well maybe a little more). But fighting against people like them also teaches you a lot about the game. Thats what you look for - a good hard challenging era. Not allies exchanging relics for a win. A win like that is as good as losing in my opinion.

The smartest way to ruin a large ammount subs and their plans to play
If you know they are coming get all set up like your going to play the round let them start their boosting and whatever it is they do. set their subs up etc, then like at a certain ammount of ticks whichever it takes just leave the round ....
Make them fight themselves if they want to play after that , they'll all just have to turn on each other But honestly i would not watse my time even giving them the oppourtunity to have a good solid game against a worthy opponet,

So anyone knows HUGE ammounts of subs are after them let them come and remember" play smarter not harder "


As i see it unfolding #1 It's slowly happening more often and pushing people off of worlds.

#2 Soon they will not get no competition so they will have free wins Less competition means less money for BD on that world..


#3 Admins will have to find a solution to fix this problem to keep the game competition and "player friendly" !!!

MY SOLUTION make a" SUB WORLD " Is it a dumb idea MAYBE but atleast they will have a place to compete to see who can have the best coordination with mass subs , Not mass subs against an independent alliance .... Or will the mass subs be scared to compete against another alliance and their mass subs too funny to think about.. I AM NOT trying to encourage an independent alliance to not test their skills against mass subs if that is what you want to do....

Make sure you aware of the situation before you get in it so you don't have all these problems !! If you don't want to deal with the hassel then you jump to the "play smarter not harder tactic "

I don't know how to do the poll thing to even attempt to make one on the" SUB WORLD" thought but if someone else likes the idea maybe they can, Be sure to have it stating in the rules soon IF your going to mass subs you have to be on a SUB WORLD also haha damn me i know right . !

Deadman you mean if we decide to offer you the 4 relics you will not accept them?

Sure we will accept them. Cuz you are not subs

Just curious have there been any battles? I haven't seen a single BR

There have been battles, but only two big losses. One for either side. SYN lost 900 units and WIND lost 660 in theirs.


SYN has killed many more units of the elements than they have lost but being as those units do not belong to WIND, it does not matter.

And hitchhiker disbanded about 30 squads earlier, after being trapped. Not sure if that is counted as a battle but still.

Okay..time for some reports from the battlefield.
Water did some moves and gained some op's in the west, then suddenly they decided to get inactive and got killed sleeping.
254 tanks of "notsolucky" (nomen est omen)
and 180 tanks of "Whiteout"


After that Wind and SYN got a bit busy with locking each other on several gates and chasing into spy traps.
So we end up facing more than 400 squads of WIND locked down in a gate with 340 spam and real squads of us.
We did several spy attacks and our sub locked the owner of the op so he couldn't relocate to it.

I am sure Allen will show some BR's and tell more.

Well well well, what do we have here!!

First of all I have to say the last 1 month has been hectic. Sleeping at 4 am, waking at 9 am, and a whole day of spamming and jamming and spending tokens O_o. We lost more than 2/3 of what we owned area wise and outpost wise. We had 11 and Water flanking us with WIND with 430 squads in the middle. We managed to take the north and south west continents before Water again ruined it for us. So after myself and Ilona went down south to clear up the mess created by water,

notsolucky got not so lucky, and here is the BR:



And then whiteout, got wiped out



These are small compared to the big battle. ALL of Wind dead, except for Strawberry and a few other squads. Thanks to Avi for being incharge of all the maneuvering and to the sub for locking the owner of the outpost, so he cant relocate . Here is the BR:



And then another suicide:



So all in all about 500 squads killed in the last day or two

This isn't the end obviously, more fun to come This will be a VERY long war:)

It's been a long war and there is still a long way to go but I do believe the stalemate has been broken that had encompassed the war. These past battles have destroyed WIND's armies and damaged those of their allies. Hopefully SYN and allies will be able to take advantage of this and end this war.

-Gaurav