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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:45 pm |
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ronelm2012 wrote: Yeah, but Nucleur Fusion is like...taking the Sun here.
And most methods of Nuclear Fusion bring more energy expenses than actual energy output.
But for now, yeah.. There have been promising advances towards making Nuclear Fusion commercially viable. It's just a question of time. Both renewable and Nuclear Fusion power are potential long term (permanent) power solution. Nuclear Fusion is far less reliant of the correct environment however, making it the more preferable of the two.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:44 am |
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Oil will never be replaced as long as they can make huge bonuses off of it. The gulf oil rig company gave out huge bonuses saying it was the safest year ever even tho 11 people died in just that oil rig explosion. the government will never research renewable resources because all governments are run by wall street and big oil.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:21 am |
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Not the case at all. There's money going towards T&D of alternative sources. Especially outside of the USA
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:27 pm |
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Renewable will NEVER be a viable solution. Just not reliable enough.
I.e. when the wind doesn't blow or the sun dosen't shine then no electricity. Probably not a problem in California but over here in the UK we often get high pressure for a few days (no wind) and little sun for weeks.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:56 pm |
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Yet if we had the right technology to harvest ALL or at least most of the Sun's energy output (and to hold it xD) we wouldn't need ANY other type of energy. Why? A single day of the Sun's energy output on Earth is equal to ALL of the non-renewable energy sources burned at the same time. And there is no extraordinary danger to this energy, so I think here is the future of energetic technologies, as nuclear energy will and always will be one, if not the, most dangerous types of energies to exist.
So joash, the only unreliable thing here is our current technology, NOT the type of energy. With the right tech, solar energy could be the only energy type needed. And ofc when its costs are reduced.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:12 pm |
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joash wrote: Renewable will NEVER be a viable solution. Just not reliable enough.
There can be reliable sources of renewable energy - think about hydro power. It`s not perfect, however, because it can damage the ecosystem. Even better, wave power. Not using a whole bay - again, a lot of ecosystem damage in that. But smaller plans, using the movement of buoys with waves, could work. About nuclear fuision - it`s closer than you think. I saw a talk once sugggesting a experiment built this year could get more energy out than is put in.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:14 pm |
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VaultDweller wrote: Yet if we had the right technology to harvest ALL or at least most of the Sun's energy output (and to hold it xD) we wouldn't need ANY other type of energy. Why? A single day of the Sun's energy output on Earth is equal to ALL of the non-renewable energy sources burned at the same time. And there is no extraordinary danger to this energy, so I think here is the future of energetic technologies, as nuclear energy will and always will be one, if not the, most dangerous types of energies to exist.
So joash, the only unreliable thing here is our current technology, NOT the type of energy. With the right tech, solar energy could be the only energy type needed. And ofc when its costs are reduced. That means we would have to rely on very sunny countries for all our electricity needs. Need pretty strong political allies to trust them that much. Call me paranoid, but not sure if I'm willing to do that
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:03 pm |
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joash wrote: That means we would have to rely on very sunny countries for all our electricity needs. Need pretty strong political allies to trust them that much. Call me paranoid, but not sure if I'm willing to do that *Facedesk* pho·to·vol·ta·ic/ˌfōtəvōlˈtāik/ Adjective: Relating to the production of electric current at the junction of two substances exposed to light.
Light > Electricity.
You are probably thinking of solar thermal panels. They normally do need to be in sunny areas, but they can still work over here.
Photovoltaic panels need sunlight. They do not exclusively need to be in very sunny countries for them to work. If they did, why do you think that companies are selling photovoltaic panels over here, when it is not constantly sunny?
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:14 am |
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joash wrote: Renewable will NEVER be a viable solution. Just not reliable enough.
I.e. when the wind doesn't blow or the sun dosen't shine then no electricity. Probably not a problem in California but over here in the UK we often get high pressure for a few days (no wind) and little sun for weeks. ok i challenge you to come and debate with me on fossil fuels Vs renewable sources i also live in the uk you have fallen into a common misconception solar panels, PV panels and PVT panels do not rely on it being sunny, it is the radiation intensity that they capture, yes true this is often higher on a sunny day however on a cloudy day most of these devices in the UK can still run at a minimum of 75% of their maximum output. GurkinC wrote: Even better, wave power. Not using a whole bay - again, a lot of ecosystem damage in that. ecosystem damage with something floating on water thats attactched to the sea bed by a solid cable?? i suggest you come and live in cornwall, plymouth university have a wave hub off the coast of cornwall and other than the initial installation (which affected minor portions of the area) there have been NO negative effects on the local biome. additionally it was calculated that if 11 of these could be installed off cornwall they could power half of the UK on a daily basis
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Powerplants Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:07 pm |
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you have got to understand, that japan is the only country in the world with above-ground nuclear powerplants. yes, the smokestacks might be showing but thats not where all the crap goes on...
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