Yeah I definitely wrote that email. But if you can read right,

what you have assumed - "We can have stuff near you, while you cannot have stuff near us. If you don't like it we will take everything you have."

and what I said - if you do decide to go after the ones in saudi, or expect us to remove it, then ALL of your outposts, gates, radars and TBs need to go from Europe.

Read Both!!. I think you just wanted to initiate confrontation, so you just misintepreted that. I said, your stuff needs to go, if ours need to go. And why dont you post the other emails too? Lets see how I have threatened you?

Not until I stood my ground did you offer to remove yours.. also I was told those OPs were for KiSS. Just one more of the lies upon lies.

well, lets just let our units talk

No, I asked you to remove, and you had your conditions. Thats why I said I negotiated with you and got the knight to make the gate a radar. We did keep it devoid of units. Then you killed my units YET AGAIN (you didnt, one of your guys), sniped our crystals. When you respect an NAP so much, I think its also fair for others to expect to not be sniped or get their units killed especially by a friendly. You guys, never showed any respect, especially when one of your people killed our units and then had a hissy fit. If I remember right, even you were disrespectful and arrogant with Lady cathryn.

It is then that Menehune for very good reasons declared war.

You never compensated us for the lost units, so obviously sniping was alright behavior in ASEN's book.

Ah ha! My apologies! I see now where GIFT deserved to have the NAP broken:

"If I remember right, even you were disrespectful and arrogant with Lady cathryn."

Clearly when one is rude to me, I am not allowed to be rude back. GIFT brought this all upon ourselves! You mean I was rude AND we took a crystal from your conquer?! Clearly we should even go as far as to be banned, this is an outrage!

Well I could ask you guys the same. You never compensated us for the loss of our units. So probably sniping was alright according to you guys.

This war wasn't declared because you took a crystal from a conquer or because you were rude. You killed a lot of units, you took multiple crystals, conquers sniping us EVERY time AND justified it with a hissy fit. THAT was the reason for war. Get it right.

Why would we compensate you if you never compensated us?

You killed our units first, you were close to our colonies first... so that just boils down to one of your conquers losing a crystal (which you have no diplomatic right to) and being rude to Cath when she was rude to me first.

You've yet to reiterate anything but your poor beginning "justification".

Again, you are just being difficult and failing to see the point. The first question can be answered with a question - "Why would we compensate you when you never thought of compensating us?"

Secondly, like I said before in one of my earlier posts - the first kill was completely unintentional. It was a mistake. Apologies were given and conditions were accepted. We were close to your colonies, since we were in Europe right from tick 1. Now you cant really blame us for that, cause if you do you are just being stupid.

And what is this "beginning justification" that you are talking about? The justification was always the same - "Sniping, crystals and conquers and killing units, even after the first instance was sorted out". On top of it all, every time YOU sniped us, whenever we attempted to take crystals from one of our conquered colonies, and that too outside of the UK, all your guys did was have a hissy fit and go on a rant.

I never said anything of the matter, and anything my members may have said is unofficial. If members carry official wait to be worried about, then more weight should be given to the threats of war I was sent by your players.

If any compensation was to be done it would be you first, since you killed us first, and you didn't.

As for spacing, I requested a map to be drawn up long before you got to the middle east, I was ignored and you setup there anyway.

You keep saying the same thing even after it's been explained.

Exactly what I am trying to say. What members said dont carry any official weightage. I just said that you guys were rude. if you look at one of my earlier posts, I said that it wasnt one of the reasons for war.

Secondly, we neither asked nor gave any compensation. We simply agreed to stay out of the UK like you requested, which we did. And that was a deal I made with one of your members, and even though it wasnt official I still adhered to those conditions because you were friendly. You guys did not show us the same courtesy, and instead went about sniping us and taking our units out. I am not sure what map you are talking about, but the reasons for war are clear. Gift sniped, and took our units out, even after ASEN showed courtesy, EVEN though the request to stay out of UK was from a member and not from you officially.