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turbodiesel
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Post subject: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:29 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 17, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 3
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Im not complaining im just giving an issue i think should be addressed
The fact that so many colonys are being deleted. For example i should have 104 colonys conquered on a world but i only have 48 due to them getting deleted. I aswell as many other people on all worlds have donated to get conquers and power, but then the colonys are deleted.
Ive talked to people and they agree with me that it feels like our donations are a waste because what we get from them is eventually taken away again.
This issue has to be adressed because some people may start to feel cheated out of their money, i know Battledawn is not cheating us out of our money but it has to be thought out and a comprimise made. For example putting inactive colonys into perminant vacation, unless they become active again, with a taxation of %50. Or something like that
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Steven
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:36 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:51 am Posts: 661 Gender: male
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Hi there, Turbo.
The deleting colony feature is there to free up space from inactive players on the world. The worlds are often full, and not deleting would cause a huge amount of inactive colonies taking up space required for new players to come in to the world. Deleting colonies has always occurred, and - I believe, always will. There are not many games which don't implement such a feature, due to it's significance in keeping the game fresh.
Yes, lots of conquers get deleted. You need to keep conquering and expanding to keep up your momentum.
A better question - why does a conqueror deserve to gain resources out of a player who has decided not to play any more?
It's been suggested a far few times, and rejected. (Although tweaked a bit) - I think the system at the moment is fair - and prevents stagnation.
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Unkn0wN
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:47 pm |
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turbodiesel wrote: deleted. I aswell as many other people on all worlds have donated to get conquers and power, but then the colonys are deleted. ... you donate and get conquers? Weird...i didnt know that. turbodiesel wrote: For example i should have 104 colonys conquered on a world but i only have 48 due to them getting deleted. For example i had 630 conquers and i had like 20 deletes per day or even more. The only thing you can do as a player if you wish to keep your conquers up is keep conquering and conquering. turbodiesel wrote: Ive talked to people and they agree with me that it feels like our donations are a waste because what we get from them is eventually taken away again. Everyone hates deletes , someone will explain to you the delete feature. I think when a colony is created it has lik more than 3 days until it deletes. So in all that time you can conquer many others and replace the ones that will be deleted turbodiesel wrote: This issue has to be adressed because some people may start to feel cheated out of their money, i know Battledawn is not cheating us out of our money but it has to be thought out and a comprimise made. . You Pay For Resources . Not For Conquers. Just because you are a donater you shouldnt get any other privilages . You dont know how many people would like to have resources thanks to red tokens xD. Cheers Unky
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turbodiesel
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:35 pm |
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but the aim is to get conquers, so resources are used building units for conquers etc... so you do donate to get conquers. i know why colonys are deleted dont think im stupid. On the world im playing on, i am expanding, i am conquering other people, but overall im losing power, because no matter how much anyone may try you will lose units when attacking people, so you can only have a slow unit increase, and they are used conquering the new people.
The only way you can overcome this is by donating a huge amount in the first few ticks, to get a large enough army. So donating seems pointless unless you donate mass amounts.
So as i said people are becoming less pursuaded to donate, because eventually you will lose all you donated by deletion.
also with the boost everyone gets resources from the donators money. and there are a few people that use it for revenge on conquerers, which as i said dont often have a very large army so could lose half or more to a newb whos built up a opposing army on the donators money. So donators are helping to dig themselves into their grave.
you talk about getting extra privilages. im saying a comprimise should be made. It wont only apply to donators but to everyone whos conquered someone and the conquer gets deleted.
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ronelm2000
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:30 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:06 pm Posts: 3544 Location: Philippines Gender: male
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first off...dont use red text.
second...you should have put something in the suggestions forum...something like:
"I want to get 50% of the deleted conquers..."
That will probably solve the problem.
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DocRock
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:09 pm |
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Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:02 pm Posts: 73 Location: Indiana, USA Gender: male
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As Steve and Unky have explained, this debate has came up many times before and has been changed and tweaked a bit, but ultimately BD had to settle for deleting colonies automatically in order to make room for more players - which provides a fresh batch of conquers. Active conquerors who feed off of taxation though shouldn't really be losing much of anything when attacking these colonies. If somebody is, then they need some lessons
I hate losing conquers too. We all do. But without them deleting then the round becomes stale rather quickly. Not to mention the insane amount of power some players would have. The servers would be stuffed full of players with "Unky-like" stats.
Here's my best advice to you. When u conquer somebody, particularly a newb, send them a polite message to inspire them to continue playing and growing in strength..rather than giving up right off the bat. Sure it won't always work, but when 2000 ticks go by and u still see 30 or more conquered colonies in ur list, then it obviously works. Doesn't take much time to send a kind message and a few game tips to keep them motivated and the taxes rolling in are well worth it. Give it a try mate.ronelm2000 wrote: first off...dont use red text.  I must have missed that rule - hehe! Please do not use red text in your posts. They are reserved for mod use only. If you have any more questions about this, PM me.
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ronelm2000
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:27 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:06 pm Posts: 3544 Location: Philippines Gender: male
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DocRock wrote: As Steve and Unky have explained, this debate has came up many times before and has been changed and tweaked a bit, but ultimately BD had to settle for deleting colonies automatically in order to make room for more players - which provides a fresh batch of conquers. Active conquerors who feed off of taxation though shouldn't really be losing much of anything when attacking these colonies. If somebody is, then they need some lessons
I hate losing conquers too. We all do. But without them deleting then the round becomes stale rather quickly. Not to mention the insane amount of power some players would have. The servers would be stuffed full of players with "Unky-like" stats.
Here's my best advice to you. When u conquer somebody, particularly a newb, send them a polite message to inspire them to continue playing and growing in strength..rather than giving up right off the bat. Sure it won't always work, but when 2000 ticks go by and u still see 30 or more conquered colonies in ur list, then it obviously works. Doesn't take much time to send a kind message and a few game tips to keep them motivated and the taxes rolling in are well worth it. Give it a try mate.ronelm2000 wrote: first off...dont use red text.  I must have missed that rule - hehe! Please do not use red text in your posts. They are reserved for mod use only. If you have any more questions about this, PM me.
-Zhester told u. anyways anybody brave enugh to suggest this in the suggestions forum?
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Tom
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Post subject: Re: SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT DELETED CONQUERS Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:20 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:12 pm Posts: 1907 Location: Lancaster, UK
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Conquers are people, not resources. If you want them to not get deleted, give them reason to be active - Talk to them, encourage them. Every conquer is a person, and if you make them feel like it is game over then you should be ready to accept that they will get deleted. Deal with it or start being more friendly to your conquers. Quoting myself talking about the subject of conquers in the past: Quote: More to point though, and many disagree with me on this, but I see no reason why conquering a person is expected to be so rewarding - The fact that you liberate their conquers and gain their crystals/bounty alone should be enough - if you're preying on weak players who have almost nothing for you to take then you shouldn't expect a reward for it. It's not like you've done anything spectacular, except maybe making an already weak player even weaker. Quote: Conquers delete in the first place because they get conquered and think that it's 'game over'. If people left conquers alone for a good week or so and gave them a fair chance to get the jist of the game then we'd have more pulling power to newer players, less conquers deleting, more active players per server, more competition and therefore more enjoyable rounds.
Frankly I think protection periods should last a week, not a day or two.
Sorry if I said something that hurt your feelings, but when I look at a colony, I see a person who wants to play a game, not 'ooh +3 metal per tick for a few days before he gives up and deletes'.
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