Noone n UTM or AL cheated. Once again I'll repeat myself.

Do not talk about things that make you look stupid or ignorant... like this.

I would not consider being banned for language "cheating"

First off despite what bobby said to the public, he did not leave and attack UTM to spite Shadow or bc the war was long and boring. He left bc he was getting busy and could not be on. However, he wanted to make a name for himself when he left. He had been trading information to AL and had set up a spot for himself in there. However that fell through when I switched over. Knowing he had been found out was what drew him to the desperate actions that he took.

I completely disagree. Winning this era did take skill. Obviously it took skill to get our score this high right now. 90-95% of us are not red token boosters. Alot of us are experienced players and like I said sometimes it is better to be diplomatic then a stupid, stubborn knucklehead like you. You need to know when you are going to lose, you need to know when a fight is pointless, and you need to know the largest gain you can gain from a situation without compromising ones own morale values and integrity. Merging was a strategic decision that not only secures victory for AL and UTM but strengthens us for next era.
Why war when you can have peace. An example of when someone started out making the right decisions but then made the wrong ones in his bloodthirst for war is Hitler in Nazi Germany. Hitler first made peace with Japan (a rizing power having just defeated Russia and China) and Italy (another world Power) He then began expanding and gathering territory (including Czechoslovakia which France and Great Britain pretty much sold to him) he then established peace with Russia ( a GREAT decision for had he not established peace he would have been fighting a two front war) He invaded Poland and France and GB declared war. Together Japan, germany and Italy were tearing apart the Allied Forces. It was only when Hitler betrayed Russia and attacked them thus breaking the pact that they slowly began to lose since they had to fight a two front war now and with Russia entering the war and Hitler also betrayed Italy invading them and causing them to switch sides also. Had Hitler not done either of these we would be under a Nazi regime as even with the late aid of the USA we would not have defeated him.

I forgive you punto lol

*Don't multi post ~ ~

You're ignorant. There is known cheaters that are running around free on BD, and get away with it, just because they don't get perma banned or have red smoke on them does not mean they don't cheat.

Also, this is BattleDawn, allies, sure you can make, but after a long war making peace to merge enemies from a whole era to win together...is sorta...crappy? Well, not all the AL and UTM members will win.

So you didn't successfully defeat AL and AL did not successfully defeat UTM. AL is not a TOP alliance, granted they have good players, but because they are together do not make a good team (cooperation, etc). You could have taken advantages of the members banned.

You made a new NAP when the last few relics came out, if I recall, I don't know why D:

A NAP usually only agreed to during a war is when on one or both ends, the players feel they are not ready or feel they can not win the war and need time to bulk up. Which these NAPs proved, but in the end you guys are merging,

If this is your type of win, so be it, but won't be enough to beat last era or past era M4 champs.

First off I had to post multiple times bc it was in responses to several players messages and it is not a huge issue but I guess if you want to make a big deal about it bc you couldn't find anything else to critisize in my messages then go ahead.

If AL is/was such a bad alliance then how come you guys couldn't take them out. I can post the exact same thing about RDH (SYN). And we had an NAP because there was several suggested merger proposals and so we gave them time to think it over. and NAP is agreed to b both sides so I would have to say an NAP usually is only agreed to when BOTH alliances feel that. However in this instance the NAP was not for "bulking up."

As I recall you guys have won an era so I guess we were good enough to beat previous era champs especially since most of us have won an era before.

and don't try to make excuses about why you guys aren't in first saying "ohh we didn't use any tokens." YES you did, don't even try lying. I am not saying that you used red tokens but ALL of you boosted at the beginning of this era at least once and even if you don't boost now (most of you probably do) you still have boosted.

Jokes on you, I'm not in RDH.

*btw, you can multi quote separately in your posts, an if you know the forum rules, you fit all in one posts

I don't care about UTM or AL, AL have some players that I am friends with, I have seen some UTM players on Earth.

UTM is nothing special, surprised you lasted long though, but is because of your "brother/sister" alliances like UTMb and UTMe, I'd assume, they are just that loyal

Your merging is formed by both sides thinking that each side is not able to be defeated by one another, that is what I see.

Well someone feels strongly about this. Lol. EDIT: hey there was a response to my quote!! Ok so first thing, I did not quit cuz I lost a spot in AL. I did that cuz I knew I would not be able to log in daily for the next month and decided to find a reasonable excuse to get some publicity. Then u compared me to hitler which is....... No comment

Yep you can multi quote in a post however you cannot release a post with more then three quotes in it so I had to do multiple posts. Or at least when I tried to it said I could not.

No we both think we CAN defeat the other, however we both recognize the possibility of the other being able to win ie. UTM has more power but AL is more active. So that played a role in it. We are also trying to end this era and we want to finish first (who doesn't) we also want to forge a strong alliance (alliances) for next era.

Ohh I'm sorry I guess you are an even worse player then I thought. My apologies AnitusEx.

Lol I didn't compare you to hitler bobby... (I wouldn't do that to you buddy ) no I was comparing what RDH and the other ppl who feel threatened by this merger said we should do to what Hitler did. To prove that diplomacy not sheer power is what wins eras.