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krlosjoc1 · **Joined:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:47 pm **Posts:** 35

nice BR, you guys always shine with those BRs :ugeek:

, hit them hard, i am pretty sure that AI will offer you guys a deal soon because you made them weak... its your choice to go after them or letting them.. :twisted:

Anarchist69x · **Joined:** Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:30 pm **Posts:** 362

They demanded us to either stay east or become their sub and then suddenly attacked us out of no where. From the look of their squad movement only 4 maybe 5 are active from their entire alliance. Will be fun but not expecting anything extravagant.

ShadowReaperX · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:26 pm

Anarchist69x wrote:

They demanded us to either stay east or become their sub and then suddenly attacked us out of no where. From the look of their squad movement only 4 maybe 5 are active from their entire alliance. Will be fun but not expecting anything extravagant.

haha that would be the funniest thing if u guys who dont even care if u win or not BEAT them who are try hards.

230 power, i would like to see that down to 100

GerberBaby · **Joined:** Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:54 am **Posts:** 30

VaultDweller wrote:

Now apart from the jokes, you guys have done very little other than move squads here and there, telling your subs 2 push forward and nuke us from a safe distance.

Really? Yet you seem to be the ones who keep retreating your units back from all of our attacks. Stop running this isn't a war if the only units you use are spam units. There have been maybe 3 "major" attacks that resolved in the past 2 weeks between us bc you guys keep running away. Stay and fight lets finish this era not make it last till tick 2,500 just to see you guys lose.

-Haven

mfreak · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:51 pm

branabus wrote:

!
Surprising, I had assumed given their name, position and actions that they were against UTM...
But with Al taken out of the equation, UTM (side) wins. Game over. UTM (side) wins with 17000 more score, 100 more crystals, 15000 more power, 17 more members and 120 more power/member (all values are approx).
So, it rests on Al and RDH.

Dude, whats with you and calculating power and score? It hardly matters. If you work as a team, and are active enough, you can beat any side. Power hardly matters..

ShadowReaperX · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:14 am

Yep so true, but also you need to know how to build troops.

branabus · **Joined:** Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:19 am **Posts:** 60

mfreak wrote:

Dude, whats with you and calculating power and score? It hardly matters. If you work as a team, and are active enough, you can beat any side. Power hardly matters..

I calculate power to strip away the apparent advantage that crystals/relics give.
Power gives a more accurate idea of the value of alliances. While it is true that activity is more important than score, three things should be noted:
1) You'll only get to the top... say 5 if you've been very veryactive, meaning that you've got plenty of conquers, and thus resources to build troops.
2) If you've got about half (perhaps as high as 3/4) the power of your opposition, you're dead no matter what. I have never seen, at any point (except once during the old client), a weak (not very much power) alliance, no matter how active, take on a power-heavy alliance. I will stand corrected on this one, though.
3) I have no way to calculate activity, only score.
I'm also rather pleased with the spreadsheet, so I want to play with it. It also gives an indication as to which way the war is actually going, without radar coverage of the entire map- if the power score abruptly drops for one alliance, they've suffered a major defeat.
That is why I crunch numbers so much. And... well, I can attempt to make a prediction if I complete a little bit of spreadsheet programming, and we'll see who's right then.

Anarchist69x · **Joined:** Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:30 pm **Posts:** 362

A spread sheet won't tell you who is more active thus you can not predict any winner sorry to burst your number bubble. Your #2 point is obviously wrong on many levels. As long as an alliance is active and has potential players they can easily take down somebody twice their power as long as they stay active and pick their battles appropriately. #1 point has already been broken multiple times even on the current M4.

Spread sheet will only tell you who is higher in power and score but won't predict any winner what so ever no matter how you put in the numbers.

Ilona · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:24 am

to underline point 2, I would like to show a BR again

Tick 1261 :

but they still have double of power and score.
I am not here to prove someone that it is possible to take on a rank 1 alliance.. I just stick to my words, that BD is developed to fight and with an active alliance there is not much power needed to let them suffer.

krlosjoc1 · **Joined:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:47 pm **Posts:** 35

haha cilepra is down from about 130 of power to 89 of power in 2days!! you guys are the best :oops:

UTM, UTMb,UTMe,GALA and other allies vs AL and subs