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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:50 am 
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Neither did any player say that we were wrong, nor did the developers come here and say that, that was a mistake or a violation. Infact a lot including some of your own, supported us. Only you haven't. If the developers called it a violation I would ask them why they put that feature in, in the first place. So am not wrong. What the admin indicated was again wrong. The only two people wrong here are you and Seth. You just dont wanna accept it is all.

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
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Features are put in broadly, and restrictions are added as unintended uses surface. That's how it has been for every feature in BD for the past 5 years. That's how development works.

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:05 pm 
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No development does not work that way. You gather ideas and requirements, design what you wanna develop, code in intended features, and then anything unintended is termed a bug. Its removed in subsequent updates. Adding a feature and then adding an arbitrary restriction, is not how administration should be done. If its an unintended feature, then people should not get banned over it. How would one know, that it is unintended. That is simply wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:08 pm 
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rrriiiiiiinnnnnnnnggg

Clear the ring !

Guys, could you pls take a break in the duel Kevin vs Allen ?

I think, we are on a point where its useless anyway.
Same for the other topic btw.

The era is over.
No one of us can change anything now.
We should let the BD staff team do their job and make things clear for future eras.


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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:07 pm 
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Didn't he get a crystal when he conquered the kicked colony? I think that definitely counts as resource harvesting... Even if he wasn't conquering him for that reason, it still breaks the rules in the ToS...

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
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The point of the rule is to prevent abuse when it comes to resource harvesting. One crystal gives you next to nothing in terms of resources. Infact it wont even increase the metal production by 1 per tick. So banning for 1 crystal, and that too banning a guy that spent 2k dollars, is just ridiculous.

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
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Either the rule is a rule or it isn't Mfreak....

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The rule is for farming Twilight. The rule says building a colony for the sole purpose of resources, crystals etc is a violation. Secondly if you see why that rule got made, it was made because people would invite like 20 or 30 folks to build, then conquer them and take crystals and abuse the game. This conquer was not farming. We conquered him because he was the only way we could gate back to SA. If we didn't, and if GIFT did, wed be stuck there in Africa. So it was more of a strategic move. Not farming. Farming is abuse purposefully for resources. In this case there was actually reduction in resources earned. And it was for pure strategic reasons we did it. Like Avi said, why would a guy farm 1 crystal and 1 conquer, if he spent 2k dollars on the round? So cant go by a rock paper scissors approach to judging something. You have to really see if someone is guilty.

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
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yes twilight that makes perfect sense lets ban the guy that got 1 conquer and 1 crystal when he is in the 2nd ranked alliance and spent $2,000 is that honestly worth it? it was a very strategical move and slave colonies support the alliance without being in the alliance this guy actualy JOINED them and allowed them to have a great location advantage which was a very clever move and technicaly not against the rules

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 Post subject: Re: Some Clown Locked The Topic
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Michael doesn't have access to the kind of testing resources to be able to fully vet out every possibility. So the mechanics will change and evolve over time, there was a documented slave colony rule with precedent.

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