Haha, well I would show them if I had them. If you have nothing to hide, show them. But of course you will continue to talk trash instead of backing yourself up.

I dug through like I said, but I can't control the fact that I don't have logs from 3 years ago, if you have them, bring them to the table... but of course you won't.

I guess you dont know how to xfer files from one computer to another.. otherwise your just plain ignorant

Power surge fried my motherboard and the drive had to be wiped before I could use it again. You are being very childish bringing up computer skills, when you don't know what you're talking about you should probably be quiet to avoid looking foolish.

nevermind.. i wont say anything that will get me banned .

First it's a new computer, then a power surge? Really... then why not just say you had a power surge to begin with? WHOOPS! I mean, of course you just forgot about it, or the aliens wiped the event from your memory until just recently, or it's a 9/11 conspiracy and you can't post the logs.

Seriously, maybe you should write down all your lies first so you don't overlap fallacies.

You threw down a gauntlet, then pissed off all of it's participants with your comments, and now said gauntlet is coming around to bite you square in the arse. "You reap what you sow," seems to fit this situation perfectly.

Original credit for that gauntlet line goes to Donald, btw. I hear you two are friends?

Who is Donald?

My story never changed, the power surge is what caused my need for a new computer... I didn't realize you needed the full story, want the model number and place I purchased it as well? How is it relevant information? I merely mentioned the power surge when asked why I didn't retain my files from my own machine.

It is really astounding the lengths people will go to in what sad excuse for debate people partake in now days.

I think the issue they are trying to portray is that you said would bust out some old school logs, but when asked...you couldn't =/

I actually would like to know the computer's info, since most surges do one of two things to computers. One is absolutely nothing and you can turn it back on fairly soon after the surge with no permanent damage to anything, and the second is where it fries whatever it comes in contact with. I've yet to hear of any electrical problems with computers that have simply been fixed by formatting said electrically damaged item. Still, miracles do happen. Maybe that surge was destined to fry your motherboard and miraculously leave your hard drive in need of a quick wipe, but then have it function properly after the fact.

I only have one question before I continue. Which hard drive are you using at the moment, the ex-damaged one, or a new one?

I will admit your story hasn't changed about the computer, but it does appear to be never ending.

At this point Redwurm, the general idea is to either get all the facts on the table and clear Kane's comments of any doubt, or catch him in one of his lies.

I used the old one on another computer for a bit, got a bigger one, am now using a 3rd one... recently upgraded as of about a week ago, but I still have all the files from the 2nd drive. I didn't have to wipe it to repair damage, I had to wipe it because it was configured for that setup, had an old recovery partition I didn't need, etc. It was because I wanted a fresh drive to use with the new machine I got as a result of the damaged components in my old one, not that wiping it magically fixed physical damage to the drive, there was no physical damage to the drive. Only the motherboard was damaged, the power supply too perhaps, I forget as it was awhile ago and I know I needed a new one anyway.

It's not about the content of the logs, I said I would like them to be known if he cares to do so. My first logs go back only to E1A2, they do not include E1A1. If I was afraid of the content there I wouldn't request him to bring them to light.

Not that it even matters, this is a debate regarding something that happened 3 years ago, we were all very different players then... I should hope we have changed as back then I even knew Stinky's user name and password, he knew mine. It was completely legal. Just an example of how things had changed.

Hm I see... thats the new battle now which transformed from a fun thread to a "proof me I'm wrong" thing. Actually I do not care who has which log or said what, 2 years ago. Neither side is fun to read ATM.