I'm glad I was at work all day yesterday and didn't have time to get on the forums. This looks like it would have hurt my brain...

This is factually inaccurate.

The game, specifically Seth's repeated bad behavior as an admin, has not changed by keeping quiet. It may change by forcing the game to focus on him and his administration of his eras.

We know silence has allowed the makers to refrain from ever addressing they key question asked here and softly elsewhere.

POINT TO THE VIOLATION I MADE AND SHOW ME WHAT TO EXPECT FOR A BAN.

Seth has not only been unable to clearly point to a published game rule which allowed him to act as he did against the actions he saw, but he has shown no game rule which allows him to act as he did against those who were in no violation of the rules, but he felt they might eventually become.

It's a simple question.

The closest we have on this is a guy who spent $1,000 on the era is "arguably" farming by conquering a colony with a single crystal, and the ONLY evacuation point out of Africa home should it be required.

You have an admin who believes he can fit any situation he doesn't happen to like within nebulous rules which don't actually apply to the conduct taken, but which, in a pinch, can explain away to Michael what the hub bub is all about.

There's a reason Seth is now here showing John Doe's past citations for rule breaking. My guess -- not a fact, merely my guess -- is Seth didn't, as he expresses here, have any of that history prior to taking his action. The utilization of past bad acts, which may themselves be questionable given the operational method of admins here, is merely a disguise to the fact he has yet to answer WHERE he gets the power to act OUTSIDE the game's stated rules.

He clearly has it, but where is it enumerated, if it is? If it is, regardless of how reckless and crazy, at least someone wrote in a published document, "Notwithstanding the specific rules captured in the rules section, our admins are entrusted to take action prior to and after possible rule violations take place and take punitive action against colony owners, which may span several realms, for actions which have never been contemplated as a rule violation previously."

No. Now is the time to pound on the drum and demand change

Maybe the change is as simple as the game maker's writing something in their rules which says what I wrote above. Screw you guys, we'll do what we want, so deal. That's a fair rule. If known ahead of time, no one can say they weren't warned. I once wrote a rule for a very large message board that said, "Users who question the admins understanding of the rules will immediately be banned for presuming they have the slightest clue as to what the rules the admins wrote are meant to capture better than the admins themselves." People hated it, but, it's there.

It ain't hard.

Say you can do what you want. Don't try to fit round holes into square pegs.

The game, specifically Seth's repeated bad behavior as an admin, has not changed by keeping quiet. It may change by forcing the game to focus on him and his administration of his eras.

It may change by loudly proclaiming a clear dividing line where the user community -- especially large donors -- grew so tired of his interference and unfair application of rules that the game's financial impact deteriorated.

Since you keep beating up the dead monkey and refuse to listen what the other part of the community, which does not agree with you, is trying to tell you... here it is, plain and simple:

Large donors ARE happy with admins of BD, including Seth, and we ARE satisfied with how Seth addressed this controversial situation under the circumstances.

Now, after i assumed to be the voice of the whole community, how does it feel? Stop speaking in the name of BD community (supporters and non-supporters), you have no mandate, you can only speak up for your self. Please give us that much respect. Thank you.

What you say might be true Ping, regarding certain donors, simply because they have benefited from an admin action. When Kevin got banned however, you did not agree with the Admins action, and even that was a controversial situation.

Obviously what Oluvai said atleast applies to two of the largest donors on E4 this era. Lots of others have expressed the same issues and concerns to me atleast, in private conversations, if not here. So I would conclude, that the number of people actually agreeing with this particular admin action, are few and far between. Obviously you have to respect the majority since it is a democracy

I am one of the largest donors too. I dont agree. Oluvai doesn't. Avi doesn't, Andrei doesn't, and so many others who didn't play the era dont. I brought up my private conversations, just to point out that there are many more that have not commented on this thread or do not wish to, but feel what Oluvai said was simply the truth. And that number of people far outnumber, those that agree with Seth's decision.

The majority therefore is not with you. Anyway, if you are tired, you could totally avoid the thread and move on, and let people "moan". When there is an issue it has to be brought up, fought for and fixed. There is nothing wrong in pointing out obvious flaws in the system.