Seems to be the hot issues since my last post are the relic, and me being kicked.

Trister, if you kept your members as well informed as you claimed, then why have I received a profuse apology from Knight, stating that he was informed I had left, not been kicked?

As for the relic, my entire army was on it, as was theones.

I'd say it would be taken very badly if I left the alliance with my relic full of units floating towards S colonies.

theone had his (larger) army on the relic the whole time, I had hoped to get it within range of Africa to bail out of it before leaving, since leaving via outposts would have meant having to go through very long distances, potentially through swarms of nukes, on a very limited supply of oil.

theone was fully able to move his units off then send them right back to take the relic, taking a relic full of hostile units to DRAW would have been suicidal - You had your insurance policy all along, I would nor could have ever gotten that relic to DRAW, I was simply trying to ensure my own army's safe passage.

It is my regret that I couldn't do the whole thing face to face, but with Trister threatening to kick me already, and with him being a relative unknown to me, informing him could well have resulted in kicking and conquering, which is what I feared.

I was never robbing you, I was simply trying to best ensure my own safety while leaving peacefully.

However, since I have not been allowed to leave peacefully, I think it only fair that I'm not expected to play nicely anymore - watch your backs.

Apologies for not reading all 3 pages, I am short in time.

Nasferatu, Routhy never assigned to join Blackhawk OR Guarav. I recruited Routhy, and routhy promised me that he would aid me. He stayed loyally (even when the selfishness of some of our member costed him his chance to get a rank.) and left later on for S. Besides that, you should realize that your oh-so-favourite Terra Nova stole relics from FaF and brought them to DRAW.

Now, what you personally do, is your choice, if you leave, your alliance doesn't lose anything and only stops profiting from you. However, it get's entirely different if relics are involved. There are only 10 relics in the world, and it's damn hard to get them. They require the effort of an entire alliance to get and keep. To my opinion, switching around a relic would be plain and simple backstabbing. So tell me, Nasferatu, why are you attacking Routhy, and not Justin ?

Routhy left FaF to join Riodan, not Trister. Trister wasn't his friend and tensions were high between the two.


You can not expect someone to serve under someone he has a personal disliking for nor someone who wasn't leader since the very beginning.

To my opinion, you swear loyalty to a leader, not to an alliance, by joining it.

After all, it's the leader who forms the core of an alliance, it's the leader who makes an alliance any different then "just another bunch of people". You apply to a leader to join, you don't ask the alliance members.

To my opinion, what happened to Routhy, was plain and simple backstabbing. Instead of letting him go as he deserves to, you conquered him to save yourself some score. Routhy worked hard for that score, this is Routhy's age, he's not the property of S.

Conquering Routhy like this is very, very low. I strongly suggest you apologise for this matter, in another public thread so everyone can see it. Routhy is a reasonable guy, he won't hold grudges if you apologize properly and possibly cover his losses.


And for the record, Draw's leader is a great guy. I doubt he will support backstabbing by disallowing Routhy to join. Knowing him, Routhy will be top 13 and in DRAW by the end of the age

S, u let me leave in peace, and didnt harm a unit of mine, so why do this to routhy?

Routhy had more to profit from, besides, Trister isn't to fond of Routhy

Nope.

One word reply, OMFG OMFG OMFG MODS HERE WARN HIM WARN HIM BAN HIM BAN HIM.


Sorry Kane, couldn't resist, was just kidding, that one word amuses me because it's one word XD.

Anyway, don't underestimate Routhy, Kane, we both know the leader and we both know the purpose of DRAW If the leader feels Routhy would be useful for that purpose, Routhy will be in.

And Routhy is an excellent player if he wants to, besides that, he gives a lot for the team. I remember him handing out lots of tokens for the alliance to build up, and I also remember him sacrificing his own units to help several members: costing him his rank.

By joining HKF , and my being the leader at the time also , he "technically" which ment he also did it to my , And i whas still part of HKF , and joined our enemy.

But still , his allaince members probs trusted him , if not , i did when he whas in HKF.

And breaking that "trust" is betraying , and then joining the enemy to , is backstabbing.

Unless you A. have permission from your leader/and the members are fine whit it(the ones who trust you ofc , if the don't you can leave whitout betraying) B. Your alliance wants to kick you/ and your allies would just hand you back to them if you joined them.

This whole thread is a mystery to me. A powerful relic holding alliance member leaves to join closest rivals with whom you are about to go to war & gets kicked & conquered.

Sounds like one of those no-news day items to me.

I'm sorry Routhy, I'd do the same thing every time, and Trister would have been stupid not to have done what he did.

Hkf is falling out! btw it was FAF but the disbane there alliance i left and drow conquerd my for no reason well good luck this round


its more kane conquerd me becuase he dislike me! ( the magichead )

becuase tabula sayed he leave me alone btw i dont care i stop after mars 2:)

have fun

I'm just saying, what you described is not going to happen. I don't think he was even ever joining DRAW, I think it was DARK.