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Andrew · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:32 pm

Subs aren't going to go away due to the simple fact that they work. The best way to deal with subs if you don't like them is target that alliance with subs specifically, you guys can police this on your own and it is a simple case of choosing to not use subs and instead use allies! Get a group together to take out a sub empire and once it's done go your seperate ways. Make it a detriment to be in a sub and it will not be used, instead of complaining about the subs take action! Be innovative and destroy that which you think is a cheap tactic.

In M2 in the past month or so there was a massive sub empire that was taken out by basically 1 alliance who used shrewd tactics and annihilated the main alliance which caused the subs to fight each other and basically the house of cards tumbled on itself. That is a great case of a group of players taking action to end what they think is a lame tactic.

-Andrew

Attom · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:06 pm

Subs are just used as decoys... remember ICE? They had to have had at LEAST 10 subs, they are taken down again and again and again by several alliances. Yeah it's a tough battle, but it's not impossible.

Knight of Zero · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:43 pm **Posts:** 360

Bazzy wrote:

God..... I thought left coalitions behind in E6, guess I was wrong.

I mean honestly..... a coalition and 2 subs. You do realize that's a 72 member alliance if you include the subs.....

I thought people wouldn't form subs with double the alliance members, especially not when they're in first place. But I guess I'm just crazy :shock:

actually the coalition is made of UE, KoR, BDA, TGA, OE, and TDF. those all together is 125 ppl. then there is UE's two subs which total to 44 ppl. so altogether its 169 ppl. your guess of 72 is way off. but yes i see ur point of it being rediculous, but i like the safe feeling knowing that i can go away for long periods of time with out being attacked. :]

Bazzy · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:39 pm

Knight of Zero wrote:

Bazzy wrote:

God..... I thought left coalitions behind in E6, guess I was wrong.

I mean honestly..... a coalition and 2 subs. You do realize that's a 72 member alliance if you include the subs.....

I thought people wouldn't form subs with double the alliance members, especially not when they're in first place. But I guess I'm just crazy :shock:

actually the coalition is made of UE, KoR, BDA, TGA, OE, and TDF. those all together is 125 ppl. then there is UE's two subs which total to 44 ppl. so altogether its 169 ppl. your guess of 72 is way off. but yes i see ur point of it being rediculous, but i like the safe feeling knowing that i can go away for long periods of time with out being attacked. :]

No.... 72 is accurate, as I was only talking about the amount of possible members that UE alone could have if you included their 2 subs.

24*3=72

edwin737 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:17 am

yea same here we are all safe

mayhart92 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:45 am

i am asking the leaders of alliances in UAC to disband. it's a unfair advantage to other players in this game, if the same alliance wins round after round then noone will continue playing. this unfair element should end for greater good of the game.

riski1234567dr · **Posted:** Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:49 am

coalition=subs.

Cant win by urself.

rederoin · **Posted:** Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:52 am

mayhart92 wrote:

i am asking the leaders of alliances in UAC to disband. it's a unfair advantage to other players in this game, if the same alliance wins round after round then noone will continue playing. this unfair element should end for greater good of the game.

Then what is SCM?

:roll:

mayhart92 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:14 am

SCM = gamer network , if players used SCM allies to gain unfair advantage over another alliance they can be kicked out of it. we have rules you know. SCM unites alliances against a problem that needs to be dealt with. that's why it's here. you don't like it take it up with the network leader tritus.

Knight of Zero · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:43 pm **Posts:** 360

mayhart92 wrote:

SCM = gamer network , if players used SCM allies to gain unfair advantage over another alliance they can be kicked out of it. we have rules you know. SCM unites alliances against a problem that needs to be dealt with. that's why it's here. you don't like it take it up with the network leader tritus.

What u just described is a coalition. u say UAC is unfair but thats what yours is too. we will not disband because we are uniting against a problem that needs to be dealt with and that is the safety and future security of our colonies. dont be a hypocrite

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