if anyone actually wants to cheat, this wont stop them. this is just there for siblings, anyone actually "cheating" like this can use teamviewer, or skype's screen control. as long as i have 9 friends willing to keep computer on 24-7, which almost all of my friends do anyway, i can run a full team of 10 on an era, not just that, with enough setup and organization i can get a friend and the 2 of us can have 10 accounts online all the time, every single tick. there is no point in removing the sibling rule

so nothing should be done about 1 legal way of cheating only becouse you cheat on other way?
this "sibling rule " is most dangerous way of cheating, cause "siblings" can switch shifts on both accounts 24/7 without much effort and without danger to be caught.
it is "legal way of cheating" , with BD admins blessing , and without way to be banned. one admin said that cheating brothers Mothnap and Strategy were "both online 24/7 , for a week. if admin realy tell you that 2 people can be online all week without sleep, then that admin have problem swith his brain. ofcourse , that admin knows that brothers are cheaters, but they get lot of reds from siblings, so they dont want to bann and loose that players ( cheaters)

Stab said he was threaten by Admin Joe for telling truth. Same thing happend to me . joe threat to me and he called me a liar .

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BD menagment should deal with Joe. he is not only letting cheaters to get away, he insult fair BD players , calls players liars, and threat for reporting iregularitys . i will not back down untill this is fixed , BD is turning into mud , and fair players are abused by admins and their favourite red boosters who can do anything they want[/quote]
ive said for a long time joe needs to be removed from admin position. he has no percision, but is always late. he is the least active admin, and there are many forum moderators that are better then him. ive stayed up for 2 nights (2 different occations) where he has said relics BY a certain tick, and no relics pop up until 10-20 hours later. secondly, he is EXTREMLY bias about almost everything. EVERYTHING. from relics to banning people he doesnt like. thirdly, he takes forever to ban clear multies, so making multies if you hide it well enough is beneficial on a fast joe world in truth. he is a BAD ADMIN and needs to go.

Well the thing is , there is no perfect system in world , in this world nothing is perfect , everything has some flaws.
What u guys think huh,? by threatning tat u will quit playing they will make updates according to ur needs?
u have many agencies to stop terrorist attacks but still there arë attacks
if u go for a more CC engine u will have more gas consupmtion & vice versa
Nothing in the world is perfect nor permanat

Kael I completely agree with u , if admin reads this I want ans for this
Joe shorted entire UNO alliance 1k blues
Joe forgot to give 2nd place blues to bolel
Then the problem princekael faced with him on E2 regarding relic
Joe temporarily banned me unnecessarily when I asked him for his skype for easy & fast comminication he put a permanent ban on me , he was rude arrogant while talking to me
That day on the topic ''Was it a trick'' , ilona banned a GNTC but the same era unbanned him & said everyone desrves a second chance & many other players agreed to it & see to Joe how he was , forget abt 2nd chance he permanently banned me

This is completely ridiculous , well I really wonder after doing so many mistakes he is still there

Well I'll be honest, on the Joe issue I can completely agree. I even made a thread about it once, though people were not exactly happy with me about that. I think he is the worst admin by and large, and there are many others that could do his job a lot better, faster, and more precise. Every era I have played in with Joe something has gone wrong, so I can understand your feeling there. Even on my M1 era where I planned it out completely and even told him which tick I was going to let the era end he just suddenly decided to postpone by about 20 ticks after I had razed everything and literally had no network whatsoever left. On top of that he was always late with banning the multies that were attacking and spamming me, and this is just one era. He is now going to admin the CE, that should be fun as well.

Either way, saying that the sibling rule should be allowed to stay because you can always use teamviewer is a moot point if you ask me. You might not kill off cheating completely by not allowing siblings to play, but you can make it harder to account share which would be achieved by making the rule that it's simply not allowed to play on the same world.

It's a simple change, and one that would solve quite some headaches.

not really, how would you propose the other people play then? buy another router?

Rather than stopping a whole group of people from playing, get a better way to catch cheaters. shutting something down because there is scope for cheating rather than finding a new way to catch cheaters is just sad.

Ehm, I'd propose they play different worlds? Seems like a pretty easy fix eh. From what I'm reading you are obviously one of the people who have siblings or parents playing or something, and I don't mean this personally. But there IS no way to catch this kind of cheating, simply because as admins you can't physically check who is sitting behind the PC. That is why this kind of cheating annoys people so much, there is no form of proof whatsoever that can be used to determine people are cheating.

One of the main reasons they would play is to play and have fun together. and why would there be no way? if both the accounts are always online at the same time then it's preety obvious that someone's cheating. and the times i have played with 2 spouses before, they arent really online at the same time at all other than a few set times because of different schedules. Same in my case, i missed several launches before because of my sister not waking up.

As for ways of catching them, why wouldn't there be any? I don't know anything about IT or Computer studies since not majoring at that. but can't you tell if someone logged in from a different device or not while still using the same wifi?

Well Milan now we have u a powerful man, if we again make a thread & request higher authority to do something abt joe it should be done we have individually tried telling our problems but not much of response but if we work together I'm Sure something will happen
I have all those members in my contact who have suffered same problems like u & me

I need to tell 1 more thing abt Joe
One of my friend used to play on F3 with 2 accounts ( no he did not have any siblings) he did this for like 6 months means around 4-5 eras still he wasn't banned by joe , I told him many times to stop doing it but he continued & was never banned

ur absolutely right there are many mods who are in the waiting list & they deserve it .
& joe being admin on CE , I have only few words to say - God Bless CE

that is point: this 2 brothers were always online, 24/7 , both, but admins said they are not cheating, they are " just active, and micro-sleeping" . maybe Superman can be that much active, but even he would get epylepsy from so much time without sleep. dont count there time this 2 brothers spend on work. and 19 min micro-sleeping is just showing inteligence of our admins.