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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:59 am 
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Yeah, I am totally the hardliner here... One of us has to be ;)

I dont disagree that they need to play, and they know that I know that they shouldn't go for the win even if they want to. Hanging out, observing, applying and testing is all part of the process though, and some things simply cannot be applied on a testing server. This is a given.

Tom does not have administrative rights in-game here on main BD, so there is no conflict of interest. His administrative powers are forum-exclusive here, so he is as any other moderator is free to play as he wishes. I've no problem with that. Knowing what I know, his morality alone is outspoken.


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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:39 pm 
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Pff, don't worry about the admins..They're all horrible players, no threat ;)

said someone who was killed by an admin :D

anyway, admins rarely play, and if they do, it's either non-serious, or don't have any administrative power.

personally I don't have anything against admins playing, even if they are serious. I have my trust on admins, and I believe they won't abuse their power.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Seth wrote:
It is with great reluctance that I allow admins to play on servers I administrate, specifically because I do not want it called into question, which in my opinion, it is all but a certainty that it will be.

Rest assured that no admin plays on any server in which they also have administrative rights. I will not stand for conflict of interest, or foul play by even admins.

They will gain no undue advantage on my watch.



That is exactly the point, the doubt it creates.

I have nothing against them playing the game, I am just talking about the championship where a lot of players are spending serious money, and I believe that they are fair players (they wouldnt be admins if they were cheaters, right?) but, as you said, it raises the question.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:15 pm 
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Avi, my dear friend, you should know that I won't comment this :)



yeah i know, this is why i was brave enough to post 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:34 pm 
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Ilona wrote:
Avi, my dear friend, you should know that I won't comment this :)



yeah i know, this is why i was brave enough to post 8-)


Very brave indeed. An example of courage to us all! :lol:

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Seth wrote:
It is with great reluctance that I allow admins to play on servers I administrate, specifically because I do not want it called into question, which in my opinion, it is all but a certainty that it will be.

Rest assured that no admin plays on any server in which they also have administrative rights. I will not stand for conflict of interest, or foul play by even admins.

They will gain no undue advantage on my watch.



That is exactly the point, the doubt it creates.

I have nothing against them playing the game, I am just talking about the championship where a lot of players are spending serious money, and I believe that they are fair players (they wouldnt be admins if they were cheaters, right?) but, as you said, it raises the question.



Administrators have no power on servers that aren't theirs, much like the police in a different country. They can do absolutely nothing other then perhaps talk to the other admins.

But alas, I have any admin whos server I play on added on skype, some players even met administrators or developers in real life. So I don't see the advantage, in that.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:47 pm 
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blolel wrote:
Seth wrote:
It is with great reluctance that I allow admins to play on servers I administrate, specifically because I do not want it called into question, which in my opinion, it is all but a certainty that it will be.

Rest assured that no admin plays on any server in which they also have administrative rights. I will not stand for conflict of interest, or foul play by even admins.

They will gain no undue advantage on my watch.



That is exactly the point, the doubt it creates.

I have nothing against them playing the game, I am just talking about the championship where a lot of players are spending serious money, and I believe that they are fair players (they wouldnt be admins if they were cheaters, right?) but, as you said, it raises the question.

usually, those who think admins abusing their power by playing and giving themselves unfair advantages (or giving other alliances unfair advantages) are noobs or at least those who don't have a rational thinking and just want to vent their anger into something (and admins, unfortunately, usually the first target)

however, this eventually made the admins, when playing, always go incognito and hiding themselves. Only in special cases do the admins play publicly. So this is not much of a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:16 pm 
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admins are great ormurgerd and they should play if they want to. and you can always have them go incognito you kno?

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:26 am 
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Alexanderkitty wrote:
aviturg wrote:
Ilona wrote:
Avi, my dear friend, you should know that I won't comment this :)



yeah i know, this is why i was brave enough to post 8-)


Very brave indeed. An example of courage to us all! :lol:

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Seth wrote:
It is with great reluctance that I allow admins to play on servers I administrate, specifically because I do not want it called into question, which in my opinion, it is all but a certainty that it will be.

Rest assured that no admin plays on any server in which they also have administrative rights. I will not stand for conflict of interest, or foul play by even admins.

They will gain no undue advantage on my watch.



That is exactly the point, the doubt it creates.

I have nothing against them playing the game, I am just talking about the championship where a lot of players are spending serious money, and I believe that they are fair players (they wouldnt be admins if they were cheaters, right?) but, as you said, it raises the question.



Administrators have no power on servers that aren't theirs, much like the police in a different country. They can do absolutely nothing other then perhaps talk to the other admins.

But alas, I have any admin whos server I play on added on skype, some players even met administrators or developers in real life. So I don't see the advantage, in that.


yeah admin no power in playing the game, why admin select championship era to play .what is the big difference in playing normal era than CE era, if they play in CE they can noticed if the game is many bugs or anything else and in normal era they cant noticed.

why the mate of admin insist there is no something like that adn admin can play .why other people(not mate of the admin in CE) insist admin cant play?..

i dont think so it coincidence admin playing in supporting the big booster and the others admin play nothing just like in BME alliance so that there is reason not all admin support big booster

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Yummy dear,

Admins play whatever servers they choose to play, as long as they don't have admin rights on them. As long as they see the same map as everyone, they have no advantage.

Noone asked Seth if other admins can play CE. And noone should. They each do what they like and that's that.

And please learn English...pretty pls. I mean you confuse me so much with your sentences that start nowhere and finish in the same place that I had to read your post three times. And take 3 Tylenols. I can only imagine how desperate Sage must be if they recruited you lol.

Yang, let's kick more Sage ass. Let's see if Seth or anyone will have something to say about it. I bet you their livelihood they won't. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Admins playing the Championship
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Seth is my admin account. It has all been a ruse.

As long as they have no advantage. i.e. admin privileges on that server it's irrelevant IMO.

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