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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:16 pm 
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Just to be clear, any problems caused with NASA are mainly NASA's fault (as a player in NASA).

Right from the off NASA were rank 1 and it only took a few ticks for Andrei to spark up the opportunity to grab rank 1. As everyone knows though early game score doesn't mean anything and we're a group of players that haven't played with each other before, so the likely hood of us doing well was slim.

Still Andrei had no problems bringing this up with Rania, which in turn caused her to start doubting the alliance. I mean who wouldn't start doubting an ally if they started talking like they wanted the win, which would involve defeating you. However this was originally resolved.

The matter then started occurring again when war broke out with PHIx. Originally PHIx attacked NASA and KCA came to our aid... Since then Andrei has openly said in the chat he's happy to keep his units away from any front line and watch KCA fight PHIx alone. Then yesterday he started to bring up the plan on winning again, which involves PHIx and KCA fighting it out till one wins, then NASA stepping in to a war. There was no secrecy to this, he told members in KCA his intentions which caused arguments.

Now at the start of the war KCA and NASA were both putting pressure on to PHIx and still getting nowhere. Yet Andreis miraculous plan involved fighting either of these alliances solo. Right now we haven't even been able to put any damage on to PHIx with the help of KCA, so going at it solo makes no sense to me.

NASA are hungry guys not to be trusted. While it may create a more exciting era for this CE, the way they've approached it is all wrong. They've messed a lot of people around and still have the nerve to call out others. I've refused to be part of it, so I'll be leaving NASA soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:47 pm 
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rania, saying we had to chance to get rank 1, and saying we were only there for your purpose was the reason why you lost. this CE will not be quite as boring as everyone thought dont worry :)



she lost ? :o what did she loose ? lol


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:18 pm 
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I hate how when ever you do something others don't agree with its automatically labeled back-stab.

And assumptions are made here that are not correct.

NASA members voted on whether to continue to support KCA or to start playing for themselves. The majority decided to cut tied with the KCA coalition.

Andrei may have been planning to attack KCA, but that was never discussed as a whole by the alliance. Our only goal was to officially remove ourslves from KCA and their family. That is all.

We are maintaining our relations with all allies, and I have agreed to a Nap with the leader of KCA. We will also continue to fight PHIx not for KCA but for our own reasons (although due to recent rash actions that lead to the kicking of 2 members has set us back a bit).

KCA members may be upset that we are no longer under thier command, but calling us backstabbers for wanting to split off from them seems a little extreme.

As we are now looking our for our own interest, NASA will look to maintain relations and secure our territory, with as little conflict as possible. Remember, actions of individual players do not necessarly represent the intentions of the whole allaince. We take the time to discuss and vote before doing anything.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:23 pm 
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Andy wrote:
Just to be clear, any problems caused with NASA are mainly NASA's fault (as a player in NASA).

Right from the off NASA were rank 1 and it only took a few ticks for Andrei to spark up the opportunity to grab rank 1. As everyone knows though early game score doesn't mean anything and we're a group of players that haven't played with each other before, so the likely hood of us doing well was slim.

Still Andrei had no problems bringing this up with Rania, which in turn caused her to start doubting the alliance. I mean who wouldn't start doubting an ally if they started talking like they wanted the win, which would involve defeating you. However this was originally resolved.

The matter then started occurring again when war broke out with PHIx. Originally PHIx attacked NASA and KCA came to our aid... Since then Andrei has openly said in the chat he's happy to keep his units away from any front line and watch KCA fight PHIx alone. Then yesterday he started to bring up the plan on winning again, which involves PHIx and KCA fighting it out till one wins, then NASA stepping in to a war. There was no secrecy to this, he told members in KCA his intentions which caused arguments.

Now at the start of the war KCA and NASA were both putting pressure on to PHIx and still getting nowhere. Yet Andreis miraculous plan involved fighting either of these alliances solo. Right now we haven't even been able to put any damage on to PHIx with the help of KCA, so going at it solo makes no sense to me.

NASA are hungry guys not to be trusted. While it may create a more exciting era for this CE, the way they've approached it is all wrong. They've messed a lot of people around and still have the nerve to call out others. I've refused to be part of it, so I'll be leaving NASA soon.


Yeah most of this is correct. Almost all in fact.

Except the matter was never resolved in those first 20 or so ticks when andrei came out and said we wanted a shot at finishing first. Ranias immediate response was to kick andrei. Luckily Andy, you being a nice guy saved the dads and convinced her not to. She still would not agree to just play out the era and just 1v1 at the end. At no point did any of us in NASA say we were fine with second place. We just let the topic slide.

We were all fine with fighting PHIz and defeating them then turning our gaze onto first. Shadow said that he'd rather not leave his troops on the front lines and just let KCA take the losses, but he still listened to me and we still fought. Where the issues came is when you and viper wanted us to essentially do a suicide fight where both NASA and PHIz would lose all their troops this gift wrapping the entire era for KCA in a nice tiny little bow. I for one am not gonna work hard just to give someone else a victory. There is zero incentive to work if it's only for someone else's benefit. That would be like working a 60 hour work week at a dead end job only to find out that you aren't even getting paid.

As for being hungry, yes we're hungry. We want to win. As for being trustworthy Andy you know for a fact that we're trustworthy. I'm not gonna bad mouth you, you know I could, you know that I know things. But I'd like to think that we're friends so I'm not gonna say any more because I don't want to jeopardize that friendship.

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KCA members may be upset that we are no longer under thier command, but calling us backstabbers for wanting to split off from them seems a little extreme.


Hey jan don't forget what rania told you tho. This is "her" era. Way to mess up "her" era.

It's a pity we didn't build our colonies fast enough and that she claimed it before the other 800 people who built did. (Didn't check the actual number of colonies before someone comes in and says "it was 834").

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:19 pm 
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Personally, the fact that PHIzzzz is still around scrapping with very little damage involving PHIt killing WDH. I think PHIzzzz has already won. The fact that they are winning support from the globe from this senseless act. Good job who ever you lot are. Win lose or draw in this war, you all have every right to hold your heads up facing the coalition head on giving birth to a new one where I fully support this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:27 pm 
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Never did I say we should do a suicide fight xD I can't talk for viper here, I don't know what he might have said. However I wouldn't settle for a suicide fight. I've always thought about how to fight a fight where we will take few losses and it's difficult as PHIx are playing seriously safe.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:28 pm 
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Oouch....

I guess people talking more about NASA here lol..

At Dr.whoever it is lol..

Anderi is so mean minded he suggested me to do fake wars with PHIz
like move spams n make KCA think we are moving armies...

lol

All i said to him is "If we fight..We fight real"
and i dont believe in fakes..

i feel NASA should do major wars with PHIz coz they started it..
Leaving KCA do it and wait till they loose more and attack them is a act of cowards lol..

Anywayz Me n Andy are out of NASA and some more will join us soon..
Better find replacements Dobby and plz don't ask me to get replacements. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Johnrambo77 wrote:
Oouch....

I guess people talking more about NASA here lol..

At Dr.whoever it is lol..

Anderi is so mean minded he suggested me to do fake wars with PHIz
like move spams n make KCA think we are moving armies...

lol

All i said to him is "If we fight..We fight real"
and i dont believe in fakes..

i feel NASA should do major wars with PHIz coz they started it..
Leaving KCA do it and wait till they loose more and attack them is a act of cowards lol..

Anywayz Me n Andy are out of NASA and some more will join us soon..
Better find replacements Dobby and plz don't ask me to get replacements. :lol:

lol aside from u and andy NOBODY is leaving. you dont realize, this team did NOT like you ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:54 pm 
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princekael2 wrote:
Johnrambo77 wrote:
Oouch....

I guess people talking more about NASA here lol..

At Dr.whoever it is lol..

Anderi is so mean minded he suggested me to do fake wars with PHIz
like move spams n make KCA think we are moving armies...

lol

All i said to him is "If we fight..We fight real"
and i dont believe in fakes..

i feel NASA should do major wars with PHIz coz they started it..
Leaving KCA do it and wait till they loose more and attack them is a act of cowards lol..

Anywayz Me n Andy are out of NASA and some more will join us soon..
Better find replacements Dobby and plz don't ask me to get replacements. :lol:

lol aside from u and andy NOBODY is leaving. you dont realize, this team did NOT like you ;)

Not true hea probly taking stephen. Gosh we'll miss his 500 score and 1 tick of activity a day. RIP stephen whoever you are

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