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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:01 pm 
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This reminds me of a conversation in a comedy show called "Blackadder Goes Forth"
It was set in world War 1

The conversation went like this: BTW - Darling is the Sir Name of one of the characters and hes talking to Captain Blackadder. General Melchett is their boss-

Darling: So you see, Blackadder, Field Marshal Haig is most anxious to eliminate all these German spies.

Melchett: Filthy Hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war!

Darling: And, fortunately, one of *our* spies--

Melchett: Splendid fellows, brave heroes, risking life and limb for Blighty!

Darling: ...has discovered that the leak is coming from the Field Hospital.



It all depend on what side of the fence your sitting on.

It seems that when KCA try to get people on their side every thing is fine and ok because hey! we just want to play with our friends , have a good time and of course win.

but if the other guy tries to rally people to their cause then its "manipulations and lies"
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Lmao, the thing is, KCA using subs, so lets blame them and rally against them.

rally goes on and on,

from no where colony starts coming and spam, noobs come and suicide, different different alliance comes and join war against us, endless spams.
Still at the end of day, Lets say, KCA using subs while we are alone.

Your logic is being applied over u too, mate. Come on the middle of fence and judge. If you're so eager to continue biased fights, go and fight in PM.


I see what you did there ;)

I made a response to accusations of "Manipulations and Lies" and commented on the different ways people might view a situation depending on what side of the fence they were sitting on.

You then quoted me and and then responded as if I was saying something totally different and made an argument against that :lol:



"from no where colony starts coming and spam, noobs come and suicide, different different alliance comes and join war against us, endless spams."

well what can I say? welcome to BattleDawn :)




"Still at the end of day, Lets say, KCA using subs while we are alone".

Not sure what you meant here but i haven't claimed in one comment that I thought PHIz guys were alone :lol:




"Lmao, the thing is, KCA using subs, so lets blame them and rally against them".

also I have never blamed KCE for using subs :lol:




If your looking to use my statements against me you really should, at the very least, read the statement I actually make :lol: :lol: :lol:


Lol, I dont find you're things logical, either you're repeating everything thats happening, or striving for attention. Anyways.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:08 pm 
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lazar1903 wrote:
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josh i think milan was Kong admin


Milan was admin, kicked when they catch him cheat.
now he cheats smart , with 2 IPs, but still...... cheater:)

btw, someone said that threats to Milan about trolling is "spitfull"... arogant Milan said he will not play, but he threat he will troll others who play game .
if threating by trolling to troller is "spitfull" , then i dont understand your logic.
Milan wants to troll - and he dont want to be trolled back???
eat what you cook , Milan...
but your trolling is not succesful, i see you rank 1000- and still going down.


The fact that you have spent nearly the entire war attacking him and with a large part of your army, I have to say, he looks pretty successful to me. He's trolling. Not trying to rank. His only goal is annoying you. Wasting your time and resources on him is exactly what he wants. Your goal is to prevent him from taking your stuff. Both of you have been successful in your own view. However, he has prevented you from paying attention to PHIz and instead focus on him solely. In that regards, he has been FAR more successful in achieving his goal, where as you are trying to help KCA out and they have been getting pushed on by PHIz while you are still sending 9+ squads to deal with Milan. Smart that you aren't underestimating Milan, but I have to say Milan has more than achieved his goal and then some.

And I was the one who said you were insulting and throwing a hissy fit. Not that you were spiteful. You threatened Milan with 20 eras of trolling him with your entire team (which i'm sure they are happy that you volunteered them for that) while insulting him because he was trolling. While I have no issues with you giving out your own threats (that are most likely empty in all seriousness as most threats are), the fact that you threw in some poor choice of words is where i have a problem. There is no reason you can't be civil and respectful, even with your enemies. Those who show no respect should not expect it to be given to them. People will always have opposing opinions. Throwing a temper tantrum will change nobody's ideals. Only their opinion of you.

And there isn't an issue with a troll trolling a troll. You are going beyond trolling however and simply holding a vendetta. Which is fine, just petty and nearly impossible to follow through with.

I have no problems with you arguing things, but if you do so, I will argue back with a logical argument. You can kick and scream or you can come up with a decent argument that disproves mine. I'll gladly bow down to being wrong if it is the case.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:16 pm 
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i always wondered why would someone just spend time to troll...

expanations i can find are:
1. to help a friend win
2. to annoy someone i dont like
3. got too much time to spend
4. want to win and dont want to say it directly
5 attract attention

is there a 6th? how can it be fun to just troll with no real objective?

Don't you have something better to do ?

Which one is ur purpose Malice and SoF and MIlan and Gaurav...please solve my curiosity if u dont mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:35 pm 
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Ourania wrote:
i always wondered why would someone just spend time to troll...

expanations i can find are:
1. to help a friend win
2. to annoy someone i dont like
3. got too much time to spend
4. want to win and dont want to say it directly
5 attract attention

is there a 6th? how can it be fun to just troll with no real objective?

Don't you have something better to do ?

Which one is ur purpose Malice and SoF and MIlan and Gaurav...please solve my curiosity if u dont mind.


For me, it's I have spare time to play, but not enough to play seriously as well as will be absent for a long period of time that will put me on the brink of colony deletion even.

As for my reason for choosing trolling rather than subbing; there is no losing for a troller. Only pure satisfaction. The angrier the person you troll gets, the more you know you're doing what you had hoped. The more widespread people become weary of you, the more you know word has spread about you. Resources, units and time are wasted to deal with you, while you are not worried about losing anything.

Seems petty at times and truthfully, it can be. However, as I stated before, my goal in trolling is not against anyone in specific, it's to prolong the era in whichever way I can by my own means. I know I cannot alter the entirety of the era on my own. There are of course limitations. However, the easiest and most efficient way to get the biggest bang for my buck is during wars. If i go after a team with nothing else going on, I will obviously be hunted by the entirety of the team. Then my only means to annoy them is to simply be elusive enough that they have to chase me for hours and days on end.

So you could even put it in the boat of to attract attention. I'm an attention whore when it comes to trolling :) I try to avoid trolling via vendettas or for friends. I don't expect you or anyone else to like my reasoning. However, it is mine and it is with my goal to see how far I can take it.

My personal take on the CE is that I personally do not want to specifically help or hurt anyone. I want to help AND hurt EVERYONE to make the era last as long as possible. The longer this era lasts, the happier I'll be and the more I know I helped influence the prolongation, the better for me.

I've had countless players tell me I am one of the most annoying players to play against. I take it as a compliment.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:44 pm 
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Alone1 wrote:
Lol, I dont find you're things logical, either you're repeating everything thats happening, or striving for attention. Anyways.


what I'm doing is picking up on the KCA alliance propaganda machine and rebutting it.
If I'm repeating things that have happened its because this is a discussion forum and we are talking about things that have happened
As for the striving for attention part - if the KCA alliance stop their propaganda on here i will stop rebutting it


You see what i did there?. I took a specific thing you said and responded to it as clearly as I could. I haven't deliberately tried to make out you said things you didn't, then make an argument against that :)
I've tried not to make vague statements like "Lol, I dont find you're things logical" then not give an example of what I don't think is logical and state why I don't think it is logical :)


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:48 pm 
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The fact that you have spent nearly the entire war attacking him and with a large part of your army, I have to say, he looks pretty successful to me. He's trolling. Not trying to rank. His only goal is annoying you. Wasting your time and resources on him is exactly what he wants. Your goal is to prevent him from taking your stuff. Both of you have been successful in your own view. However, he has prevented you from paying attention to PHIz and instead focus on him solely. In that regards, he has been FAR more successful in achieving his goal, where as you are trying to help KCA out and they have been getting pushed on by PHIz while you are still sending 9+ squads to deal with Milan. Smart that you aren't underestimating Milan, but I have to say Milan has more than achieved his goal and then some.

And I was the one who said you were insulting and throwing a hissy fit. Not that you were spiteful. You threatened Milan with 20 eras of trolling him with your entire team (which i'm sure they are happy that you volunteered them for that) while insulting him because he was trolling. While I have no issues with you giving out your own threats (that are most likely empty in all seriousness as most threats are), the fact that you threw in some poor choice of words is where i have a problem. There is no reason you can't be civil and respectful, even with your enemies. Those who show no respect should not expect it to be given to them. People will always have opposing opinions. Throwing a temper tantrum will change nobody's ideals. Only their opinion of you.

And there isn't an issue with a troll trolling a troll. You are going beyond trolling however and simply holding a vendetta. Which is fine, just petty and nearly impossible to follow through with.

I have no problems with you arguing things, but if you do so, I will argue back with a logical argument. You can kick and scream or you can come up with a decent argument that disproves mine. I'll gladly bow down to being wrong if it is the case.


Milan is just jealous . that is all.
and i never trolled people so far, i played BD normal, and i always despise thos who troll-

but those people, who think they can troll someone without any problems later , those people understand only one language : same .
i am just adjusting my way of playing game with those who started first: you want to troll? fine, i will troll you when you play serious.
that is just returning back same what you doing.
that is only way to learn you how you MUST treat other people.

you said i used some words, ofcourse, i dont respect bad persons, i despise them, and i use bad words for them, i am not candidate for new Pope, i dont turn another cheek ... for that christian model, you must see with Ourania, she is different then me .


so, you and Milan think that trolling someone is ok if you do it, and when some people decide to do that to you 20 times stronger, it becomes bad??

check your logic :)


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:09 pm 
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Ourania wrote:
i always wondered why would someone just spend time to troll...

expanations i can find are:
1. to help a friend win
2. to annoy someone i dont like
3. got too much time to spend
4. want to win and dont want to say it directly
5 attract attention

is there a 6th? how can it be fun to just troll with no real objective?

Don't you have something better to do ?

Which one is ur purpose Malice and SoF and MIlan and Gaurav...please solve my curiosity if u dont mind.


well sorry u dont know me neither do i know u , but still i am replying to it so pls dont take it otherwise.

the 6th reason for me would be "saving this game" , yup sounds childish , lol well it does in first time , but the thing is KCA coalation is just defeating the concept of CE , the alliances helping KCA are capable of winning or atleast trying for a CE win but they arent , these kind of things where simply reduced to normal eras before and where fine but getting them into CE is really unfortunate for the game, For eg : FIFA worldcup is on the way , would u like to see Spain , germany and argentina help Brazil win , no i dont think so , so why on BD , now u will say its just a game , although it just a game but very close to my heart , i have even spent sleepless nights playing it and wouldnt like people loose interest in it . if KCA coalation would have been all about subs ranked 12 , 15 or below it would have been fine , but litrelly all alliance in top 12 there just to help KCA win is very unfortunate for the game. Lets hope that people will be able to turn tides.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:11 pm 
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lazar1903 wrote:
Milan is just jealous . that is all.
and i never trolled people so far, i played BD normal, and i always despise thos who troll-

but those people, who think they can troll someone without any problems later , those people understand only one language : same .
i am just adjusting my way of playing game with those who started first: you want to troll? fine, i will troll you when you play serious.
that is just returning back same what you doing.
that is only way to learn you how you MUST treat other people.

you said i used some words, ofcourse, i dont respect bad persons, i despise them, and i use bad words for them, i am not candidate for new Pope, i dont turn another cheek ... for that christian model, you must see with Ourania, she is different then me .


so, you and Milan think that trolling someone is ok if you do it, and when some people decide to do that to you 20 times stronger, it becomes bad??

check your logic :)


Fighting fire with fire, huh? Can't necessarily argue with that. However, find it funny your are going back on your own conviction of not trolling in order to try to stave off those who troll, and therefore, are only adding to the very issue you are trying to solve. If you wish to troll me in the future, please feel free. I know how to deal with trolls and have no issues with them. Yes, they are annoying, that is the point. Respectful messages are usually the key to stopping a troll. In the words of good ol' Abe! "Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?"

And as for how I treat people? I treat them with respect and I troll. How are you treating people? With insults, yet you aren't trolling. I would prefer to deal with a respectful troll over a disrespectful person in general. I have a goal as a troll. To prolong the era. You have a goal for CE, which is to support Rania.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:31 pm 
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lazar1903 wrote:
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josh i think milan was Kong admin


Milan was admin, kicked when they catch him cheat.
now he cheats smart , with 2 IPs, but still...... cheater:)

btw, someone said that threats to Milan about trolling is "spitfull"... arogant Milan said he will not play, but he threat he will troll others who play game .
if threating by trolling to troller is "spitfull" , then i dont understand your logic.
Milan wants to troll - and he dont want to be trolled back???
eat what you cook , Milan...
but your trolling is not succesful, i see you rank 1000- and still going down.


The fact that you guys are wasting resources on him makes it a successful troll. LOL so funny that he is actually trolling you without even knowing.

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Ourania wrote:
want me show u how many are on PHiz side? We till now had the help of 2 allies...SRB and NASA...


Not like Nex conquered a Phiz colony or anything :P

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