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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:06 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:23 am 
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1 more thing, why are all of RDH members Minister of wars? Isnt that bug abuse, the leader is a Mod :shock:
He exploited a bug isnt that bannable?


I was testing to see how it actually worked, and as Ilona can tell you as soon as I figured it out she was literally the first one to hear about it as she had asked me if I knew how it worked. Since neither PHIz nor nubs were asked to revoke the ministers' status, we didn't either. If asked to do so we would happily oblige.

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This is kind of funny, its ok for mods to exploit bugs coz they will make a reason as to why they did it. And like i said if RDH found an illegal spot to plant an op to get to aussie then i think it would of been allowed.
And at Senatus, u claim llll side share accounts, bug abuse etc... But u fail to realize ur actions, ive seen u farm ur allies, friends and subs to get ur R5s. Both u and geen have been caught... But since it will cause an "uproar" nothing will be done.


No, it would not be okay if we did so. It would not be allowed. You are really getting me quite annoyed and that usually doesn't really help when you are fighting me. You can report anyone I killed for exp, none of them were ones that had built just to let me kill them. Most were pretty pissed at being killed. Though lately all the exp we are getting is from KR/WeNo/HINI.

Again I will say I find it truly pathetic that those that fight us and have lost or are friends with those are trying to find any and all excuses for their loss. Geen and me are probably the best players in this game when it comes to R5. That is because we take the time for it, and we are willing to deal with all the spams etc that come from it. Trying to pin us down as cheaters for that is just truly sad. The last time that was tried the people that according to those accusing me I had killed and were friends were spamming us and attacking even while that argument was taking place, I really can't see a much stronger statement coming from them that they disliked being killed.

Either way, I don't think there is too much love between Ilona and me currently :lol: She would probably much rather have me quit this era than continue playing. But she is admin on this era, I am a player, and that is all the relationship there is despite all these accusations. Ads is a moderator too and playing against us, yet he is not being accused of being close to Ilona. Makes me think the only reason for accusing me is that our side is doing well and that I am the one posting on the forums.. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:55 am 
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Comet1 wrote:
1 more thing, why are all of RDH members Minister of wars? Isnt that bug abuse, the leader is a Mod :shock:
He exploited a bug isnt that bannable?

This is kind of funny, its ok for mods to exploit bugs coz they will make a reason as to why they did it. And like i said if RDH found an illegal spot to plant an op to get to aussie then i think it would of been allowed.
And at Senatus, u claim llll side share accounts, bug abuse etc... But u fail to realize ur actions, ive seen u farm ur allies, friends and subs to get ur R5s. Both u and geen have been caught... But since it will cause an "uproar" nothing will be done.

Like dobby said, to stop a baby from crying stick a lolipop in its mouth.

BTW i think this CE should have different medals, so we can tell who won the 'cheat era' :)


Sigh... I don't know how many times I have to say the same arguments over and over... but here we go again (and you guys complain that I write too much, but since you don't ever actually read, here comes another one!).

1. If you look closely, you'll see llll coalition has also used the minister bug and they were also the first to do so. I know because I was one of the 1st to point it out. I didn't have a clue as to how to do it (though now I do). RDH found out how and did the same. In no way, shape, or form, does this give either team any real advantage. Both are so active that all players having the ability to make and delete alliance orders is of very little consequence. If that is the best complaint you can come up with, then good for you. But if you wish to call out RDH on the situation, then you should also be aware that it would be llll who would get the worst end of the deal here as both PHIz and nubs (the 2 main powers) whom would be banned for the bug abuse, and then RDH... all the while, NJ, RBR, Moo, xSx, UN, etc. are all still up and alive and full force. So please... tell me again how this should get escalated higher...

2. RDH wouldn't abuse the OP bug. If they did however, and llll complained about it and reported it, Milan would probably get a BIGGER punishment because of the fact that he is a Mod and so involved in the community. Unlike those who already abused the bug, Milan's reputation is at a much higher stake for him actually doing anything wrong.

3. About Milan and Geen's so called "cheated R5".... I have R5 currently. It took me less than 500 ticks to make them. WHILE having nearly nothing to kill... I gained the xp by constantly killing the same 6-7 people whenever they tried to build up units. It has cost me a TON of armor units in order to get them as most of these players noticed what I was doing and started to make pure ranged units to counter me (thus forcing me to make a LOT of armors to soak up the damage). Now... once again... if I can make R5 in about 500 ticks off of relatively small battles with a bunch of little armies, I'm PRETTY DARN SURE that Milan and Geen can make MANY R5 units in 2500 ticks from LARGE enemies which they've been fighting over the ENTIRE ERA. 500 ticks people. Heck, I'll even send you every target I hit. I'm not joking when I say it was only from 6 or 7 players and constantly watching their colonies every day for them to build up any units. Experienced units simply take 1 thing to get. Time and Effort. RDH put those 2 things into creating their R5 (just as I have done in the last 500 ticks). PHIz and nubs have been at war JUST as much as RDH, but they don't have as much R5. Reason? They weren't hunting to get them. While PHIz and nubs sent full force on everything they faced, RDH kept squads back to continue gathering xp (same as I have done in the last 500 ticks as I've kept multiple squads off the frontlines gathering xp). To top it off, nubs actually has quite a few R5 units already. The only issue for them is this. They can't make more. Why? Because they are STUCK in Australia now. Meanwhile, RDH is continuing to kill and gain more xp for their units. Thus, like a very smart alliance, THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE MORE.

4. (Now off the above quote and talking about the OP complaint). As it was stated before, the coords on other worlds are not the same as the one in CE. As for the complaint that the difference in the coordinates are only off by .3 (or w/e it was), YES, EXACTLY!!! They were only BARELY off. BUT THEY WERE OFF!! >.< There are limitations in the game! That's the point of limitations. If we keep saying "but it's only off by .1!!!" then guess what?! With that logic, I could eventually make an OP in the middle of the ocean! There is a limit and the OP surpassed the FINAL .3 limit of that limitation that MICHAEL (THE F'IN CREATOR OF BD) has set in place! TO TOP IT OFF, MICHAEL HIMSELF GOT INVOLVED IN THIS INCIDENT AND MADE A VERDICT THAT THE OP WAS OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITATIONS HE HIMSELF HAD SET. CAN WE MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER?!?!?!?!?!

There, just incase, I made the explanation in all caps and HUGE lettering. Just so people can't say "OH, I didn't see that statement!".

And to say yet another statement again, PHIz, you would have turned your army anyways. You guys seem to think your 600 squads were an unstoppable force. Not like NJ has 1000 squads and are smart. Nope. They were definitely going to sit back and do nothing and let you take over India. You were still 3 ETA out and they TOOK YOUR OP. PLEASE!!!! DO THE MATH!! (just incase you guys are still too angry to do it yourselves, minimum travel time to reach an OP is 2 ETA if you own it. ALL movements are halved when you own an OP. PHIz was still 3 ETA away when the decision was made to have everything turned). If things continued to progress as they were, PHIz would have lost all of those resources with no payment. If Michael himself were to have made the final decision on what to do, Mafia would most likely be banned right now. Unlike Ilona, Michael has NO relationship with you guys (the community). Ilona TRIES her hardest to be fair. She even gave llll coalition compensation and no ban for a bug abuse. Michael would have banned Mafia in a second as HE KNOWS HIS OWN CODING AND KNOWS AN OP CAN'T BE MADE THERE. And he would have done NOTHING to compensate you for a bug abuse. God, I REALLY wish Michael made the final decision here instead of Ilona. The complaining is getting on my nerves and I wasn't even frickin' involved in the incident.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:56 pm 
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zzz logging on everyday to watch people cry. I was upset to hear the era was going to end early (as a watcher), however now I'm hardly seeing the point to watch E6. If you're losing don't cry about it. Learn from it and accept defeat. If you're cheating, understand you don't deserve the victory. If you're working hard and still suffering suck it up. Chances are someone watching will notice you and you will be picked up for many future eras to come.

God knows how long the rule has stood; ban appeals aren't dealt with through the forums. Yet all I see in this thread now is BAN THIS PERSON, BAN THAT PERSON, BAN MILAN COZ HE'S TOO SEXY!!! (you too shadow). If the player isn't getting banned, then it's most likely because THEY'RE NOT CHEATING?! If that's the case, drop it. If a judgement has been made against a player it will be because the action taken was wrong!!

P.s If shadow doesn't get a medal out of this era I might cry for him. All he ever talks about is how much effort he's put in to this era and it was his decision to end KMO which ended up forming the RDH alliance now. You can do it!! :D

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:32 pm 
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Andy wrote:
zzz logging on everyday to watch people cry. I was upset to hear the era was going to end early (as a watcher), however now I'm hardly seeing the point to watch E6. If you're losing don't cry about it. Learn from it and accept defeat. If you're cheating, understand you don't deserve the victory. If you're working hard and still suffering suck it up. Chances are someone watching will notice you and you will be picked up for many future eras to come.

God knows how long the rule has stood; ban appeals aren't dealt with through the forums. Yet all I see in this thread now is BAN THIS PERSON, BAN THAT PERSON, BAN MILAN COZ HE'S TOO SEXY!!! (you too shadow). If the player isn't getting banned, then it's most likely because THEY'RE NOT CHEATING?! If that's the case, drop it. If a judgement has been made against a player it will be because the action taken was wrong!!

P.s If shadow doesn't get a medal out of this era I might cry for him. All he ever talks about is how much effort he's put in to this era and it was his decision to end KMO which ended up forming the RDH alliance now. You can do it!! :D


Well said from a neutral party (finally). Also, I think it's high time I go visit Shadow :twisted: jk jk

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
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Ugh..wtf? Tick limit has been set to tick 5000. I can imagine false advertisement suits coming here as CE was advertised to be no tick limit and ended only after all 10 relics were captured. Teams have planned around that and now the admins have decided to arbitrarily add in a tick limit? Players have invested tens of thousands of dollars and almost half a year of their life into this round only to have it changed up now because the admins/michael are what fed up with it?

Take your lesson and don't do a no tick limit server again, but you can't go and add a tick limit to an already going round..specially this late into it. What a sham

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Ugh..wtf? Tick limit has been set to tick 5000. I can imagine false advertisement suits coming here as CE was advertised to be no tick limit and ended only after all 10 relics were captured. Teams have planned around that and now the admins have decided to arbitrarily add in a tick limit? Players have invested tens of thousands of dollars and almost half a year of their life into this round only to have it changed up now because the admins/michael are what fed up with it?

Take your lesson and don't do a no tick limit server again, but you can't go and add a tick limit to an already going round..specially this late into it. What a sham


Calculations may be a little off, but this means the era will end on the 27th of December. This being around Christmas, a lot of players will be messed around for that last week due to the holiday. Just a little unfair for those able to be active for that last week to bump up their score just a little more.

That said, I disagree completely with an end of era tick set. You can't cut an already 1000 tick war short. Why not set the era to end once llll and co or RDH/NJ and co have fallen? Yes it might take a little longer but at least it allows the era to end somewhat properly?

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Andy wrote:
gaurav1 wrote:
Ugh..wtf? Tick limit has been set to tick 5000. I can imagine false advertisement suits coming here as CE was advertised to be no tick limit and ended only after all 10 relics were captured. Teams have planned around that and now the admins have decided to arbitrarily add in a tick limit? Players have invested tens of thousands of dollars and almost half a year of their life into this round only to have it changed up now because the admins/michael are what fed up with it?

Take your lesson and don't do a no tick limit server again, but you can't go and add a tick limit to an already going round..specially this late into it. What a sham


Calculations may be a little off, but this means the era will end on the 27th of December. This being around Christmas, a lot of players will be messed around for that last week due to the holiday. Just a little unfair for those able to be active for that last week to bump up their score just a little more.

That said, I disagree completely with an end of era tick set. You can't cut an already 1000 tick war short. Why not set the era to end once llll and co or RDH/NJ and co have fallen? Yes it might take a little longer but at least it allows the era to end somewhat properly?

I don't even agree with you here. At one point we had the IIII coalition working with RDH/NJ vs KMO. No one can say for sure that the winning coalition will not fracture again and fight for the win.

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P.s If shadow doesn't get a medal out of this era I might cry for him. All he ever talks about is how much effort he's put in to this era and it was his decision to end KMO which ended up forming the RDH alliance now. You can do it!! :D


I honestly think I would cry as well. Seeing as the admin put a tick limit...I would have just went with KCA and killed phiz first 300 ticks. Geez changing the rules is not fair to those who have invested 6 months.

Thank you Andy for saying Milan and I are sexy <3 I would legitimately cry though if we don't win due to the tick limit. I prefer to have no tick limit and have a nice fight where one team holds 10 relics.

NOOO MALICE LEAVE ME ALONE!

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NOOO MALICE LEAVE ME ALONE!

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But in all seriousness. I have almost always stood by the decisions made by the admins, but this one, I am not happy about at all. I'm not going to rehash anything that's already been said a million times now, but this is indeed a big slap in the face to those who have worked endlessly for 4000 some ticks now. And I know that this was not a decision made only by the admins, but by Michael as well and I fully understand from all point of views why they wish to shut it down, but I will still say, this is not the way to do it. Pretty much a 1 month notification is hardly enough time to settle anything. I said it in the past, if you REALLY wish to put a tick limit, make it February or March. Give the players an entire normal era's worth of time to PLAN out what they wish to do at the VERY LEAST. I mean, gosh, how long did the KMO war alone take?! I know the Moo, Rome, RU, vs. the world war even took a bit under 1000 ticks, and that was considered a SHORT war.

My personal opinion. If the BD staff is concerned about the how this CE looks on them, then ending it early like this will make it even worse.

There's been talk about how this CE has burnt out the staff and the players because of it's longevity. However, we NEVER had these type of complaints in the past when 4000 ticks weren't out of the ordinary. I am still a big advocate for changing the game play of BD. We've turned this game into a rush for the finish; who can build quicker, stronger, more (which basically equates to who can boost more and then maybe 1 or 2 people who don't boost can compete by conquering near everything their boosting teammates don't have to). It truly used to be focused on strategy over huge armies. Patience and well timed nukes were the key to winning eras since army maintenance was such a huge deal back then. There was no such thing as bum rushing the enemy. I don't care if we don't go back to that exact style, but I truly think this game needs an overhaul to fix the strategy aspect. I seldom lose units because of lack of strategy anymore. I lose them because of lack of sleep now. I want chess, not checkers where I can buy more checker pieces to put on the board whenever I want!!

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