Just going to put my thoughts in on this really quickly.

If you kill a player that is in no way helping you there is nothing wrong w/ it. Regardless of there title. Substitute alliances aren't even suppose to be a part of the game. They are literally meant to be used to "substitute" units that you would've lost if you fought the team you want to lose, yourself. So if they aren't doing anything there is nothing stopping either side from taking the xp those units provide. If you want to let your morales stop you from that, that's fine but its a plausible option given in the game. Don't confuse "player rules" with actual game play.

Outpost farming is literally the act of having individuals come to an era to just create outposts for you to take. If you attack an ally it's not farming outposts. If an enemy attacks and ally and you retake the outposts from the enemy that originally belonged to your ally, it's not farming either. You can sit here and play the blame game all day long. I think you all should stick to fighting though. The more accusations made the more you make yourselves look weak.

I will make a sub, let all noobs join it and make army and kill them later for XP.

Oh no Admin, Im not sub farming ! They are inactive !!!

Ive never heard of "xp farm sub coz they r inactive"... Thts new too me like most of these updates, but if tht is allowed maybe i can create a sub to farm for free?

Again... Most of u r defending ur 'friends''. play the game right without all this cheating then maybe u can defend them. If they were your opponent u would be screaming " cheater" coz thts what i see, but since they r "helping" u kill enemy then ofc u will back them up.

U have a MOD playing in rdh and i was told a former admin at kong, he will get treated specially. Its for certain he wont get banned. He can say "its an accident" they say ok.
Seeing his replies, he looks good at manipulating and turning things in his favor, fair play... Some ppl have tht talent.

Yeah you could definitely do that Sayan. You put yourself at risk that the noobs may be active and fight back though or overthrow w.e leader you put in place and fight you before you attack them. This is different than what SoF proposed of making a sub and putting players in there on purpose to build up to farm. Your scenario at least is random noobs joining. You would kill those random noobs anyways for conquer/xp. You could let them live and join a sub and grow stronger because you want to kill them later, but again you take risk because its random players not friends you ask to place.

You guys can thank me, Dobby, Kael, FF, and Cullen for that one. KCA would have won the era by tick 1000 in my opinion if we did not get NASA to switch sides. Muhaha era was saved by 5 people xD Me and Dobby are the only original members left :'( i have been keeping a list of people in RDH though haha.

PS: Rania probably secretly hates me. Still want to change the alliance name to DHR (Don't Hate Rania)

I interpreted that as: It is not fair to break down a wall using a hammer, you can only team you're had against it.

You want Sen banned for killing an army efficiently instead of using the tools he had to do it with little to no harm.

Can we all stop arguing? I want more BRs!! j

As you wish

Where have you been then?! I've been here for 7 or so years and I've seen this countless of times. If you aren't useful, then get out. I used to run a sub empire (=V=) and if my sub members were useless, they were kicked for a more effective member and killed. And I was DEFINITELY not the first one to come up doing this.

Heck, I would even have my team (or subs team) launch to land on said colony so they could kick them 1 ETA before landing and ensure that the kill was quick and clean and no issues would arise later (or at least immediately). Then of course, force relocate them soon after to keep them from being a nuisance. Granted, I'm not so ruthless now-a-days as I was back in the day when I had ambitions to win eras instead of trolling.

Killing an inactive player vs. asking them to be your xp farm are two COMPLETELY different things though. You keep saying that we're simply "defending friends" but aren't you doing so as well? Where was your appalled posting for the VERY OBVIOUS multi accounting that Nubz was doing that I provided just a bit ago? I believe you completely ignored it and continued to blame those fighting IIII coalition for being bias when you are infact ignoring an outright SCREENSHOT PROOF of cheating that nothing was done about. Btw, that screenshot was taken OVER a month ago on Sept 24th 2014. And yet, if it weren't for all this finger pointing, I still wouldn't have posted it on the forums here.

So all I ask is that you please not go pointing fingers, especially for something you are very much doing so yourself. I fought with PHIz earlier this era against KMO (whom are actually all friends of mine) when I joined RBR for a bit around tick 300 or so. I will say, I didn't notice any cheating while I was playing with them (mains or subs), but if I had, I'd of been the first to turn their butts in. And I still don't believe PHIz has been cheating in any way in all honesty, but many of you think otherwise. However, Nubs was formed shortly after I had left RBR, which is where most of my issues have been seen. And every one of the things I questioned, I took to the admins, gave my case, and left it in their hands to decide what to do. Including the one I just showed proof for in this topic. And even when the decision did not go as I had hoped, I grew a pair, shut my mouth, and continued to play (and kill).

It appears as XP farming to people who haven't played an era that's genuinely lasted over 2000 ticks before Malice. I'm not going to get mad at them but I dont think the admins will pay any attention to these accusations. It's simply a publicity stunt by the players.

A more serious issue is how camps can be made permanent, the ddosing, and other genuine rule breaking or exploiting of game mechanics.