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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:10 am 
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princekael2 wrote:
and how many people milan were banned at the request of geen?


Geen reported quite some people, and usually he was right. Wasn't just Geen reporting them, it was most on our side reporting those. But again if you wish to insult Ilona and Joe by saying Geen controls them, be my guest lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:15 am 
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Milanos wrote:
I honestly find it quite sad that ARM has been reduced to trying to get their opponents banned in this way when they can't win normally. From what I heard you guys have always been an honorable alliance, and you have played very well this round. This however just makes me sad :\


"Oh no, I'm the victim here.. no no.. I can farm for xp on my subs, I can kill the inactives, there is no problem on it, I can ask ppl to die for my personal army get strong.." ARM what ? if u see it isnt only ARM, and also.. if u cant farm xp hunting neutrals/enemies colony, why YOU cant have a normally win playing without farming like this ?
Just you are sad ? .. I'm sad as well, this game isnt the same anymore, everyday new News, now farm inactives allies (sub alliance) is allowed :/

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:17 am 
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[quote="PsyOne"]After proofs and more proofs all being refused by the Admins (since its two of 'em working in CE), I got this "last" (I hope) proof against Milan and Geen farming xp, and its not a commom farm of xp its SUB farming xp. I hope this time Admin can do something about it, bcuz when Rania and I were banned early it was bcuz we took 8 crystals from Kent (who had left us and still was neutral when we attacked) in few ticks (at this one they were really fast LoL).
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So I hope something can be done OR gimme a nice, great, mega, hiper, super excuse to let 'em playing with those r4/r5 farmed xp on subs keep doing their dirty works.
And I got so many proofs and know you as an Admins has enough technology to check what happened.

Skillz Colony - http://i.imgur.com/PvRxKoR.png
Around Skillz Colony (No attacks on him) - http://i.imgur.com/SVpTMMN.png
Skillz Op Scan - http://i.imgur.com/OY9Zqn9.png
Milan and Geen attacking Skillz Op - http://i.imgur.com/FWgc2XD.png
Predator's Nuke Going to Skillz OP - http://i.imgur.com/7b6UiOW.png
The whole screen with the exactly Tick - http://i.imgur.com/08TUJmf.jpg

Ravage Moving out after nuke hits the op - http://i.imgur.com/MLE87rR.png

AND THE PROBLEM IS ??????????


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:23 am 
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Milan, people in PHIz didn't share their accounts neither have multies. For one player it was his colleague who played from same office premises and for second player it was his brother.

The second player didn't know both of them can't play from same PC. Neither we knew that both of them playing from same PC else even we would have asked them to inform Admins.

And Admins are so biased that they didn't bother to ask us, like they always ask you and banned them.

Whenever we report something wrong they say its "OK". Its either defensive acts or by mistake but for us they just ban us.

So I keep saying ADMINS are BIASED and I have stopped reporting them since its of no use.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:39 am 
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Milanos wrote:
Lex, if we are going to start using skype conversations as proof I would really like to see not one but several in your team banned, so let's not get started on that..

Anyway, I do not see how what you quoted makes me a cheater. I know you would like to think of me as a cheater, but I believe that is part jealousy as you guys are simply being beaten.

I still find it funny that you have people in PHIz who have admitted to having multies and have admitted to account sharing, people in nubs that have been banned for account sharing, IND that has been banned for account sharing, nubs that has been paying off people to spam us, and WE are the ones being accused.

What I find saddest is that we are not just being accused of exp farming, but you guys believe pretty much all the bad done in the round is somehow sollicited by us. Someone plants OPs around my colony with the obvious name "MILAN OP FARM" or something to that effect, we report, and there is a post here saying we are OP farming. The server crashes, we are blamed for that too despite the fact that the admins have said before they know who is responsible. What is next, the flood in the Philippines was caused by us to try and make your players unable to log for a few days?

I honestly find it quite sad that ARM has been reduced to trying to get their opponents banned in this way when they can't win normally. From what I heard you guys have always been an honorable alliance, and you have played very well this round. This however just makes me sad :\


Nice try to try to divert. Out of all that know me and played with or against me, if you have ever thought of me as a cheater please state your case. I implore my enemies that I have fought along side of to speak not allies. For the jealousy part HA. We have been fighting since it began. No rest, break no nothing. Yet we still stand. The fact we still stand just shows how good we are as well as the apparent fact of your xp farming to build units to kill us because u can not do it without. Can I speak for others that were banned......of course not, just myself. I am not a jealous person, never will be, and will do anything within the rules of the game to win. I will boost, give reds to team mates, be awake for tireless hours, making phone calls and drive myself crazy. If you call a few diplomatic lies to gain support in reducing my character.......so be it. I only play 1 era at a time, because for that era, my alliance is my family and all other players are the enemy until made friendly. The only lies I made were in the start of the era to hide our identities. Ask yourself a question......was that so bad when all were deceiving one another? I think not. On that note ARM is one of the better alliance's in this game and it takes a whole coalition to take us down. Did we have our speed bump in the era early.....yes. But, than which does not kill me makes me stronger.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:44 am 
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As some of you might know, I wasn't available the last 7 days, so Joe had to take care alone of this server.

I answered already about the DDoS attacks to some of you at skype. If there is a need, I am happy to repeat it here too.

About CE in general:

I never expected that this era would last so long. If I could have foreseen this, I would have set a ticklimit.
However, it reached now a point, where it isn't possible anymore to admin it. It became a pain as player as well as an admin.
All parties accuse each other and it looks like a big part is now: How to get someone banned
This era has burned out everyone around.
90% of all messages are now about those topics:

If a player leaves now or becomes inactive = he is an xp farm
If a player becomes suddenly active = he is a spammer/ energy farm
If a player is active = he shared accounts
If we ban a player = admin is biased
If we don't ban a player = admin is biased
and so on and so on....

Sorry guys, I am not willing to look at this any longer. It ruins everything.
I'd suggest to set a fixed end date and the one with the most score at that time will win CE 2014.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:59 am 
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prodigy321 wrote:
I think there needs to be a clear list of rules made by the admins, that go into detail regarding what is considered cheating/ farming and what isnt.
Currently there is a very large grey area where it always ends up being decided by the admin for every instance individually. This leads to complaining about unfair judgments etc.

We have reached a point where people are trying hard to persuade the admin to ban/ punish someone at a specific time when it would suite them best. Its interesting how now, when Nubs/Phiz is getting desperate and backed against the wall they come out with these complaints of incidents that happends days even weeks ago. This is only possible because there are no clearly defined rules and the admins might sway either way.

So I say, give us a list of rules that go into detail and can cover a wide range of scenarios, maybe the community can even help draft it. Get rid of all the grey areas and uncertainty.


1)alliances using pretexte about not knowing rules cant be heared this time i gues, cause it s gone off limits. ppl wont close eyes on it.

2)maybe those kinda alliances cheating searching the way of excuse (fair), but badly its late cause there was some players judged by bans already cause same actions happened as we talking about.
so it s not acceptable to close eyes today on the errors that was judged as cheating yesterday. should wait atleast era finish for the appologises can be acceptable.

3)
- general of terms and conditions of game say (its serious):

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- wiki explain ith the simple way the case we talking:

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in resume, gaining ressources or any other type of points from ally/sub is illegal, and all know it (new oor old gamers).


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
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PsyOne wrote:
"Oh no, I'm the victim here.. no no.. I can farm for xp on my subs, I can kill the inactives, there is no problem on it, I can ask ppl to die for my personal army get strong.." ARM what ? if u see it isnt only ARM, and also.. if u cant farm xp hunting neutrals/enemies colony, why YOU cant have a normally win playing without farming like this ?
Just you are sad ? .. I'm sad as well, this game isnt the same anymore, everyday new News, now farm inactives allies (sub alliance) is allowed :/

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Gimme offer for my army, we can talk tho here or Skype ;)


First of all I'd like to clarify that those kills were a drop in the bucket, to be honest. But yes, I can kill inactive players in my opinion. Just that you don't or aren't good enough at it doesn't mean others can't. You can gain units by boosting or by gaining resources normally, you can make your units stronger through gaining exp. I do not boost, so I always have to look for other ways to get resources and units. This round has NO new players joining so pretty much no conquer income and no income from newb OPs, so we are doing the best we can with what we have. As you see in the screenies it also backfires sometimes when we are spammed.

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Milan, people in PHIz didn't share their accounts neither have multies. For one player it was his colleague who played from same office premises and for second player it was his brother.

The second player didn't know both of them can't play from same PC. Neither we knew that both of them playing from same PC else even we would have asked them to inform Admins.

And Admins are so biased that they didn't bother to ask us, like they always ask you and banned them.

Whenever we report something wrong they say its "OK". Its either defensive acts or by mistake but for us they just ban us.

So I keep saying ADMINS are BIASED and I have stopped reporting them since its of no use.


Dev, do you really want to go here? Do you want me to post screenies of players from PHIz ADMITTING they had a second account earlier this round?

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Nice try to try to divert. Out of all that know me and played with or against me, if you have ever thought of me as a cheater please state your case. I implore my enemies that I have fought along side of to speak not allies. For the jealousy part HA. We have been fighting since it began. No rest, break no nothing. Yet we still stand. The fact we still stand just shows how good we are as well as the apparent fact of your xp farming to build units to kill us because u can not do it without. Can I speak for others that were banned......of course not, just myself. I am not a jealous person, never will be, and will do anything within the rules of the game to win. I will boost, give reds to team mates, be awake for tireless hours, making phone calls and drive myself crazy. If you call a few diplomatic lies to gain support in reducing my character.......so be it. I only play 1 era at a time, because for that era, my alliance is my family and all other players are the enemy until made friendly. The only lies I made were in the start of the era to hide our identities. Ask yourself a question......was that so bad when all were deceiving one another? I think not. On that note ARM is one of the better alliance's in this game and it takes a whole coalition to take us down. Did we have our speed bump in the era early.....yes. But, than which does not kill me makes me stronger.


I never denied you guys played well :) You really did play well, since the very start. But to be fair, RDH has been fighting since the start as well. So I think we are quite equal on those counts.

Though it does surprise me you say we need a coalition to bring ARM down. You do realise you ARE the coalition? PHI/ARM/Nubs merged, you guys way overpowered us and had a lot more players when this war started. I know because I have been keeping track lol. You also started the war 300 power above us.

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Sorry guys, I am not willing to look at this any longer. It ruins everything.
I'd suggest to set a fixed end date and the one with the most score at that time will win CE 2014.


Ilona, it really does make me sad that you would say this. There have been eras that ran for longer as far as I know, and the whole point was that there would be no winner until all relics were collected. We are getting close to that, as we speak llll has been pushed off the mainland. I think it is quite telling that those in PHIz came with the idea for score win and those in RDH opposed it, since we know that we are winning this war.

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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:26 am 
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if the ce era go for score only, not relic, it will be called a cheat too.

it was declared that 10 relic for win. and the time lost by players in this ce era considering it.
we are not playing ping pong here...

that can happen only if majority of alliances agree. and i dont think it ill be :mrgreen:

now rdh try convince us that they dont wana the score win even they have this level in the time we talking now already :lol:

:lol: wat a joke, manipulaing ears by inversing a senses are not so eazy to put on the table. it s an ancient marketing device not working actually.


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 Post subject: Re: Championship Era Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:29 am 
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yozius wrote:
if the ce era go for score only, not relic, it will be called a cheat too.

it was declared that 10 relic for win. and the time lost by players in this ce era considering it.
we are not playing ping pong here...


I think I actually agree with you for once, heh.

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now rdh try convince us that they dont wana the score win even they have this level already :lol:

:lol: wat a joke, manipulaing ears by inversing a senses are not so eazy to put on the table. it s an ancient marketing device not working actually.


Can't really understand what you are saying here.. But the reason we don't want a score win is first and foremost because it doesn't do this era justice at all. Apart from that, the whole premise of the era was that it wouldn't end until all 10 relics have been taken.

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