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Gaurav · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:00 am

Not sure if you are oblivious, ignorant, naive or a mix of all three. KCA has a coalition on their side of some of the best BD teams to span this game. It isn't just KCA and subs, its KCA and their immediate subs, with other alliances and their own individual sub family's vs PHIz backed by subs that for the most part don't look like they were ever planned to begin with. It is a coalition war, but not the type you are trying so desperately to make it look like it. Its a coalition vs a single alliance and subs of players who flock towards a common nationality for the most part.

Ourania, Yoz etc all had very good reasons for building this coalition in fear that they were going to face their own "anti-Ourania" coalition. Obviously that never made it to fruition and only one alliance, PHIz came here to participate. Having an entire coalition go at them because as Ourania says she isn't confident in her own alliance says quite abit about if KSA is a Champ alliance or not. I personally would disagree with her pessimistic outlook about her own alliance. If KSA's roster is the one I think it is, it is a combination of some of the better BD teams with more Battledawn experience than any other team left. So her pessimism doesn't make sense unless you look at it in more nefarious ways. But I will let others debate that.

GerberBaby1 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:48 pm **Posts:** 1079

gaurav1 wrote:

Not sure if you are oblivious, ignorant, naive or a mix of all three. KCA has a coalition on their side of some of the best BD teams to span this game. It isn't just KCA and subs, its KCA and their immediate subs, with other alliances and their own individual sub family's vs PHIz backed by subs that for the most part don't look like they were ever planned to begin with. It is a coalition war, but not the type you are trying so desperately to make it look like it. Its a coalition vs a single alliance and subs of players who flock towards a common nationality for the most part.

Ourania, Yoz etc all had very good reasons for building this coalition in fear that they were going to face their own "anti-Ourania" coalition. Obviously that never made it to fruition and only one alliance, PHIz came here to participate. Having an entire coalition go at them because as Ourania says she isn't confident in her own alliance says quite abit about if KSA is a Champ alliance or not. I personally would disagree with her pessimistic outlook about her own alliance. If KSA's roster is the one I think it is, it is a combination of some of the better BD teams with more Battledawn experience than any other team left. So her pessimism doesn't make sense unless you look at it in more nefarious ways. But I will let others debate that.

Oh I still think we're the better alliances without a doubt. And PHIz and three of their subs were planned as they were all there tick one with names and filled.

Like I said both are the exact same thing coalitions. The fact that PHIz is worse at it doesn't change the fact that they both are and to critique KCA for being one and then supporting PHIz is hypocritical.

Get1 · **Joined:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:13 am **Posts:** 167

GerberBaby1 wrote:

gaurav1 wrote:

GerberBaby1 wrote:

PHIz Rank 2
PHIT Rank 10
PHI Rank 11
PH| Rank 22
PH1 Rank 28
PH1Z Rank 46
PHIF Rank 48

Vs

KCA Rank 1
NASA Rank 3
Nex Rank 5
WDH Rank 7
SRB Rank 8
CnC Rank 26

with HINI Rank 6 still in the reserves.

Adding in ranks makes your chart look like a bit different doesn't it Haven. Any halfwitted player will see the flaw in what you were trying to present if they actually thought about your post.

Ah so you mean the fact that they're less organized outside of their main alliance and less active in their brother alliances means we should give them a handicap? It's not our fault that they are less effective at doing the same thing KCA is doing. But even if they are less effective at it fact of the matter is they're still doing it, still a coalition, and still a sub empire. Arguing that they aren't a sub empire because all their subs suck is rather silly. Instead you could argue that they suck at building one.

It seems that the KCA propaganda campaign has been to focus attention on the size of the PHIz alliance and that they (KCA) are up against a a mighty empire.

you saw fit to list who are on each side because someone at first glance (or a numpty) would think that there is a great power block up against KCA

what Gaurav1 has done is make it crystal clear where the balance of power lies and shows the statment "In reality both alliances are coalitions that are strikingly similar" to be nonsense .

To quote you again "Btw about half these alliance aren't even affiliated with KCA like Nex for instance. They're an entirely independent alliance (since someone was asking about them earlier in the thread.)"
you are all fighting a common cause here so you should not act like this is of no consequence. I see NEX has a load of Training Bases in AA below Australia as well as radars and gates and KCA has a gate right there with them with around 30 units in it.

If your going to use propaganda to bring people round to your cause you need to do a lot better than this

indala · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:17 am

Sof is not of man copy private conversations in public, if this were a discusion between 2 girls i would acept, but u are adult enough for understanding this is not correct. You can explain that convo without showing it.

What s happening? PHIz performance is excellent why yourselves underestimate them? come on guys... i don t know who is more dirty here...

SnOwDoG · **Joined:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 am **Posts:** 476

gaurav1 wrote:

KCA has a coalition on their side of some of the best BD teams to span this game. It isn't just KCA and subs, its KCA and their immediate subs, with other alliances and their own individual sub family's vs PHIz backed by subs that for the most part don't look like they were ever planned to begin with. It is a coalition war, but not the type you are trying so desperately to make it look like it. Its a coalition vs a single alliance and subs of players who flock towards a common nationality for the most part.

PHI and subs against the KFC empire consisting of all that you mentioned and more. Kitchen sink is an understatement. Someone asked me why I call the empire KFC and it refers to the good ol Mr Sanders (Kentucky Fried Chicken) for their fear of fighting an alliance on there own. They need self admitted independent alliance (NASA) with subs, admitted Independent alliance NEX and sub's, admitted through processes of elimination KFC and subs. 3 alliance with subs against 1 alliance with subs most of which are noobs more than likely. I would love to see them go against a real alliance.......wait they are all in the coalition going to hand over the relics. Do none of you other alliances have any pride and want to earn your victory. The coalitions are ruining the game for people are flocking away from the game. They should be ashamed of themselves.......so called premier players. I bet they can not win without their precious empire. The difference between VND and this error was VND could stand on their own feet with ease and there were multiple coalitions of equal worth.

SnOwDoG · **Joined:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 am **Posts:** 476

indala wrote:

Sof is not of man copy private conversations in public, if this were a discusion between 2 girls i would acept, but u are adult enough for understanding this is not correct. You can explain that convo without showing it.

What s happening? PHIz performance is excellent why yourselves underestimate them? come on guys... i don t know who is more dirty here...

Then why do you need the coalition to take them out. Give them that respect they deserve fighting you toe to toe which looks now like on all sides and their power is just growing lol......C I love you to death; however, even u have to admit this is pretty pathetic.

GerberBaby1 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:48 pm **Posts:** 1079

Get1 wrote:

GerberBaby1 wrote:

Ah so you mean the fact that they're less organized outside of their main alliance and less active in their brother alliances means we should give them a handicap? It's not our fault that they are less effective at doing the same thing KCA is doing. But even if they are less effective at it fact of the matter is they're still doing it, still a coalition, and still a sub empire. Arguing that they aren't a sub empire because all their subs suck is rather silly. Instead you could argue that they suck at building one.

It seems that the KCA propaganda campaign has been to focus attention on the size of the PHIz alliance and that they (KCA) are up against a a mighty empire.

you saw fit to list who are on each side because someone at first glance (or a numpty) would think that there is a great power block up against KCA

what Gaurav1 has done is make it crystal clear where the balance of power lies and shows the statment "In reality both alliances are coalitions that are strikingly similar" to be nonsense .

To quote you again "Btw about half these alliance aren't even affiliated with KCA like Nex for instance. They're an entirely independent alliance (since someone was asking about them earlier in the thread.)"
you are all fighting a common cause here so you should not act like this is of no consequence. I see NEX has a load of Training Bases in AA below Australia as well as radars and gates and KCA has a gate right there with them with around 30 units in it.

If your going to use propaganda to bring people round to your cause you need to do a lot better than this

I never said PHIz were stronger than us. In fact I said that they were going to lose. All I stated is that everyone who keeps hating on KCA for being a coalition and praising PHIz for going against them is entirely hypocritical. PHIz is nothing but a coalition as well. Just a worse one which is why they'll lose.

But if you want to continue whining and being hypocritical please commence. I'm sure PHI is still recruiting for their coalition. You can build a colony and join theirs even though you keep saying coalitions are what's ruining the game yet support the Phi coalition

SoF · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:40 am **Posts:** 247

GerberBaby1 wrote:

Oh I still think we're the better alliances without a doubt. And PHIz and three of their subs were planned as they were all there tick one with names and filled.

Like I said both are the exact same thing coalitions. The fact that PHIz is worse at it doesn't change the fact that they both are and to critique KCA for being one and then supporting PHIz is hypocritical.

well, either your head down there is the one thinking and doing all this funny excuses reply of yours, cause your head above is just too tired to think, for what ever reason it maybe,

then i DARE YOU! NASA Vs PHIz... the rest do not interfere...

eliminate who so ever side it maybe, 1 on 1...simple as it is...

Or it may go accordingly;

KCA Vs PHIz

NASA Vs PHIz

Nex Vs PHIz

WDH (FOR THE WIN!!!!) :lol:

SRB Vs PHIz

CnC Vs PHIz (Half way interfered sadly, correct me if im wrong)

till, then, it's your lil head down there that's doing all the talking... as what gav said;

"Not sure if you are oblivious, ignorant, naive or a mix of all three"

GerberBaby1 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:48 pm **Posts:** 1079

SoF wrote:

GerberBaby1 wrote:

Oh I still think we're the better alliances without a doubt. And PHIz and three of their subs were planned as they were all there tick one with names and filled.

Like I said both are the exact same thing coalitions. The fact that PHIz is worse at it doesn't change the fact that they both are and to critique KCA for being one and then supporting PHIz is hypocritical.

well, either your head down there is the one thinking and doing all this funny excuses reply of yours, cause your head above is just too tired to think, for what ever reason it maybe,

then i DARE YOU! NASA Vs PHIz... the rest do not interfere...

eliminate who so ever side it maybe, 1 on 1...simple as it is...

Or it may go accordingly;

KCA Vs PHIz

NASA Vs PHIz

Nex Vs PHIz

WDH (FOR THE WIN!!!!) :lol:

SRB Vs PHIz

CnC Vs PHIz (Half way interfered sadly, correct me if im wrong)

till, then, it's your lil head down there that's doing all the talking... as what gav said;

"Not sure if you are oblivious, ignorant, naive or a mix of all three"

1v1s aren't possible in this game. Sadly there's more than 2 alliances in an era. And sometimes there's actually a bit of strategy involved in real time strategy games (shocking as it may be). Games can be won through brute force like SoF "1v1 me bro" or you can aid yourself with diplomacy. Because that too is part of strategy. You need to outplay your opponents not just rely on brute strength and 1v1ing.

SoF · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:40 am **Posts:** 247

indala wrote:

Sof is not of man copy private conversations in public, if this were a discusion between 2 girls i would acept, but u are adult enough for understanding this is not correct. You can explain that convo without showing it.

What s happening? PHIz performance is excellent why yourselves underestimate them? come on guys... i don t know who is more dirty here...

*BIG SIS ALERT!!!* *BIG SIS ALERT!!!**BIG SIS ALERT!!!* :mrgreen:

im screwed... :oops:

DONT TELL ME YOUR WITH HER!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!! I HATE it when this happens...

i think your more logic to talk to... sis, 1on1 that's all i ask.. i didn't prepare PHIgroup for CE!! well, i invited them to come over to watch and to prove to them that's how serious ppl will be just to win, when boost bar resets twice a day... and thats it...

PHIz on the other hand, wants to have fun, 1on1 i believe thats what they have been doing.. and i believe i clearly stated that to our dear lil sis... :cry:

Spoiler:

but ya, 1on1, fair fight.. that's all i ask.. nothing more nothing less...

anyways, what's done is done...i will behave now... :cry:

your call, 1on1...

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